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    Interest check: Attribute Ratings

    Looking at Dayum's thread in the PH section made me think this would be a decent idea to implement here. This thread is just here to see if anyone's interested in participating. We'll rank the characters semi-independent of their stats in the Kingdom data book and instead, rank them based on their portrayal/feats. This will be separate from the tier list in that the we'll have our own stats for the characters and their totals will determine their tier position.

    I'm basing my attributes off of Dayum's with some changes here and there to better fit this series.
    Martial:
    Strength- ability to lift, squeeze, etcetera.

    Power - ove
    rall DC i.e. in this series, the ability to crush how many fodder

    Defense/Toughness- ability to mitigate damage that actually connects combined with e
    ndurance and willpower.

    Combat speed/Mobility- combined with reactions.
    Higher mobility allows you to make better use of your surroundings. We'll have to take into account mounted and unmounted scenarios.

    Grace - Combined agility and dexterity. Ability to make use of your reactions and speed in close quarters. Not every one with high combat speed and/or mobility moves gracefully.

    Adeptness- Skill with their weapon

    Leadership:

    Charisma/Inspiration- How influential a character is in raising morale themselves and generating motivation

    Confidence- How much they believe in their own power and their unit

    Communication- Ability to effectively convey goals of the unit to the unit

    Experience- Amount of time they were a general as well as knowing what to do raise morale and such.

    Strategy/Tactics:

    Instinct- reaction to tactics/strategies on the battlefield

    Intellect- ability to reason, plan, and adapt to the battlefield

    Resourcefulness- ability to use what they are given

    Experience- Amount of time they spent as a strategist tactician combined with what they learned/didn't learn

    Special- anything that falls under strategy/tactics but doesn't fall under any of the other categories
    Feel free to give a little explanation after a fighter if you feel the need to elaborate on a questionable rating


    This is open to criticism. Tell me if you want some attributes added or subtracted; attributes to be redefined; etc.

    Special stats:
    Kanki: unorthodox under Intelligence
    Seikai: poison/weapons under Intelligence
    Karin: whimsical under Intelligence
    Rihaku: defense expertise under Intelligence
    specialists like Kaishibou, Kanou, Shoumou and maybe Rinko and Mangoku should get "break through power" as part of their intelligence or leadership stat
    Houken: loner/duelist under Martial
    GGs should get "GG status" under leadership
    "Political clout" for Sei, Queen Mother, Seikyou, Ryofui, Riboku, Shunshinkun, Shouheikun, Shoubunkun, and maybe Rouai under leadership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brohan View Post
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    I'm in.
    Cool, you have anything to add to the attributes or procedures?


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    I am out.

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    Im also out

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    It's not like you guys actively post here anyway


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    I'm in, but I think there's a bit too many martial attributes. I think Strength and Power could be combined as well as Combat Speed and Mobility.

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    Experience surely should be in there? Same with 'talent spotting'. Perhaps that comes under leadership though.

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    By the way, what scale should we use for these? 1-5? 1-10? I think the 1-100 scale Hara uses is a bit overly specific.

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    There's quite a lot of attributes there. Give us an example Oda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusarigama View Post
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    I'm in, but I think there's a bit too many martial attributes. I think Strength and Power could be combined as well as Combat Speed and Mobility.
    Will do.

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    Experience surely should be in there? Same with 'talent spotting'. Perhaps that comes under leadership though.
    Forgot about that. Experience is tricky, it could be under leadership like you said but Gekishin's experience could be counted as part of his intellect. Maybe we should have a whole different category for it?

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    By the way, what scale should we use for these? 1-5? 1-10? I think the 1-100 scale Hara uses is a bit overly specific.
    1-10, with decimals included. For fairness to strategists, I'll take the averages for martial, leadership, intellect, and maybe experience for totals, since martial has more attributes.

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    There's quite a lot of attributes there. Give us an example Oda.
    I'll do Kyoukai then
    Martial:
    Strength/Power- 7/10

    Defense/Toughness- 5/10

    Combat speed/Mobility- 10/10

    Grace - 10/10

    Adeptness- 10/10

    Leadership:

    Charisma/Inspiration- 5/10

    Confidence- 8.5/10

    Communication- 7.5/10

    Experience-4/10

    Strategy/Tactics:

    Instinct- 5/10

    Intellect- 8/10

    Resourcefulness- 8/10

    Experience- 4/10

    Special- n/a atm

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    Hmm, maybe do an example for a general, that way we can get a good feel for how these should look for most characters - Houken isn't a good example honestly.
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    Hmm, maybe do an example for a general, that way we can get a good feel for how these should look for most characters - Houken isn't a good example honestly.
    I've changed it to Kyoukai but I'll do Moubu then.

    Martial:
    Strength/Power- 10/10

    Defense/Toughness- 10/10

    Combat speed/Mobility- 7.5/10

    Grace - 7/10

    Adeptness- 10/10

    Leadership:

    Charisma/Inspiration- 9/10

    Confidence- 10/10

    Communication- 8/10

    Experience- 6.5/10

    Strategy/Tactics:

    Instinct- 5/10

    Intellect- 6/10

    Resourcefulness- 3/10

    Experience- 6.5/10

    Special- n/a atm (we'll have to decide if he needs one)


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    Heki

    Strength: 2/10
    Defense: 3/10
    Combat Speed: 3/10
    Grace: 3/10
    Adeptness: 7/10

    Charisma/Inspiration: 5/10
    Confidence: 8/10
    Communication: 7/10
    Experience: 5/10

    Instinct: 2/10
    Intellect: 7/10
    Resourcefulness 4/10

    Special: Politics - 8/10
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    Rinko

    Stength: 7
    Defense: 7
    Combat Speed: 9
    Grace: 9
    Adeptness: 9

    Charisma: 5
    Confidence: 9
    Communication: 8
    Experience: 9

    Instinct: 5
    Intellect: 7
    Resourcefulness: 7
    Last edited by Kusarigama; 11-20-2014 at 05:22 PM.

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    Hold on guys, we'll have to agree with the stats on one character before we move on. Since mine were examples, let's start with Brohan's Heki spread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oda Nobunaga View Post
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    Hold on guys, we'll have to agree with the stats on one character before we move on. Since mine were examples, let's start with Brohan's Heki spread.
    Alright, I think the Heki spread looks good but I think Adeptness and Confidence should be 1 or 2 lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusarigama View Post
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    Alright, I think the Heki spread looks good but I think Adeptness and Confidence should be 1 or 2 lower.
    You should post your own Heki spread then. I'll post mine later as I'm working on a project now. We'll wait a day or so for agreement/voting and then I'll calculate averages/spreads.


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    Hm, I feel Heki's confidence is about right as is. He seemed to have gotten a boost in the coalition war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oda Nobunaga View Post
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    You should post your own Heki spread then. I'll post mine later as I'm working on a project now. We'll wait a day or so for agreement/voting and then I'll calculate averages/spreads.
    Ok.

    Heki

    Strength: 5
    Defense: 3
    Combat Speed: 3
    Grace: 3
    Adeptness: 5

    Charisma: 5
    Confidence: 5
    Communication: 5
    Experience: 5

    Instinct: 3
    Intellect: 5
    Resourcefulness: 3

    Overall: 4
    Last edited by Kusarigama; 11-20-2014 at 10:11 PM.

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