Fruitless doflamingo would neg diff. These two are worlds apart in strength
Magellan is weak as piss in combat speed and cqc ability. He wouldn't even be able to keep track of doflamingos movements
And how are you gonna say that Magellan is weak in CQC when he came out on top against Ivankov's Hair Removal Fist? That shit with him and Luffy means nothing, it was just standard pre-skip inconsistency. We saw in the very same arc that Luffy could send Blackbeard (who was stronger than a 550 million-berry pirate like Ace) flying into a wall and get him bellowing in pain.
Think more about authorial intent. Oda built up Magellan as a monster that even Shichibukai were hesitant to face. If he were to come back into the story right now, he'd still be a force to be reckoned with.
"Cersei is as gentle as King Maegor, as selfless as Aegon the Unworthy, as wise as Mad Aerys. She never forgets a slight, real or imagined. She takes caution for cowardice and dissent for defiance. And she is greedy. Greedy for power, for honor, for love."
Doflamingo movement speed would still be the same he would just lose all his mobility.
Blackbeard's body takes in more pain compared to a normal human that is why he was in pain. That feat is just shit on Blackbeards part. Doffy tanked a red hawk and was in less pain.
Looks like ill have to repeat myself for like the 20 th time since some people don't know how to identify an inconsistency. Magellan failing to tag luffy isn't an example of one, because there are no other scenes of him where he is able to do something more impressive than that, or where he appears stronger. Ive lost count of the number of times ive explained why ivankov lost and why jinbe fled from him, but essentially its because his poison makes him a terrible matchup for physical fighters, and yet despite this, ivankov was still able to injure him before being overwhelmed by his poison.
As for doflamingo, he doesn't need the ito ito to blitz Magellan. Just sprinting up to him and delivering a barrage of kicks would do the job for sure, seeing how a pre ts jet bazooka had him on his knees and momentarily winded
Oda would never write Doffy downing Magellan with a bunch of goofy kicks. Get that shit out of here. You're grasping at straws. He's not winning against Magellan without his DF.
Fruitless Doffy still > G2 Luffy, Vergo, Sanji, Smoker >> Magellan
But he ain't gonna neg diff Magellan
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Awsome. No attempt to refute the points i made or present evidence for his own, just some completely arbitrary shit about what Oda would and wouldn't write (according to no one but himself). Kong isn't half the debater he was when i first joined
What proof do you have that Smoker did not resist. So he is just gonna let someone kill him for free lol?
Doffy got pissed off and afterwards Smoker got taken out instantly. He was blitz and fodderized.
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Ivanko, jinbei, and Croc are all low diff fights for Doffy.
Doffy reaction speed is clearly superior to pre skip BB. If Doffy was in that scenario Doffy would just fly into the air and afterwards Magellan would die to awakening.
Last edited by Haki-User; 02-16-2017 at 07:05 AM.
Lol at those pre-TS Luffy bazooka argument.... Luffy's attacks aren't always consistent, one time he break through 2 buildings, destoyed alabasta main ground over Crocodile, broke Arlong's giant sword with his fingers even without G2, even after post-TS he one-shots a Pasifista and Hajrudin with G2 and then he fails to do the same to Hyouzu and Gladious. In short ; Luffy's strength without G3 and G4 is very inconsistent.
Luffy was able to throw Garp with one punch, he hurled Aokiji to sky with a kick and he did the same with Blackbeard.
Magellan himself says that he underestimated Luffy and highly possible that Luffy was amped with that attack as he did many times before. Magellan is easily capable of resisting to Ivankov's martial attacks and Ivankov is strong enough to fodderize Sanji and he can knock down Kuma easily. Magellan is no joke.