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    Now that we know of awakening. Doflamingo takes this low diff.
    How do we know Magellan doesn't have awakening?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Pimp of Pimps View Post
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    How do we know Magellan doesn't have awakening?
    With his fruit I bet Magellan could turn everything around him into poison if he had awakening. If he had an ability such as that he would of used it against the Impel Down escapes.

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    Magellan dies horribly.


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    With his fruit I bet Magellan could turn everything around him into poison if he had awakening. If he had an ability such as that he would of used it against the Impel Down escapes.
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    Fruitless doflamingo would neg diff. These two are worlds apart in strength

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    Fruitless doflamingo would neg diff. These two are worlds apart in strength
    No. Just no. Magellan would kill a DFless Doffy.


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    Magellan is weak as piss in combat speed and cqc ability. He wouldn't even be able to keep track of doflamingos movements

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    Magellan is weak as piss in combat speed and cqc ability. He wouldn't even be able to keep track of doflamingos movements
    Doflamingo's movements would be drastically reduced without the String-String Fruit. No flying; no styling through the air; no levitating.

    And how are you gonna say that Magellan is weak in CQC when he came out on top against Ivankov's Hair Removal Fist? That shit with him and Luffy means nothing, it was just standard pre-skip inconsistency. We saw in the very same arc that Luffy could send Blackbeard (who was stronger than a 550 million-berry pirate like Ace) flying into a wall and get him bellowing in pain.

    Think more about authorial intent. Oda built up Magellan as a monster that even Shichibukai were hesitant to face. If he were to come back into the story right now, he'd still be a force to be reckoned with.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kong View Post
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    Doflamingo's movements would be drastically reduced without the String-String Fruit. No flying; no styling through the air; no levitating.

    And how are you gonna say that Magellan is weak in CQC when he came out on top against Ivankov's Hair Removal Fist? That shit with him and Luffy means nothing, it was just standard pre-skip inconsistency. We saw in the very same arc that Luffy could send Blackbeard (who was stronger than a 550 million-berry pirate like Ace) flying into a wall and get him bellowing in pain.

    Think more about authorial intent. Oda built up Magellan as a monster that even Shichibukai were hesitant to face. If he were to come back into the story right now, he'd still be a force to be reckoned with.
    Not to mention Luffy even made Garp bleed.


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    Doflamingo movement speed would still be the same he would just lose all his mobility.

    Blackbeard's body takes in more pain compared to a normal human that is why he was in pain. That feat is just shit on Blackbeards part. Doffy tanked a red hawk and was in less pain.

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    Looks like ill have to repeat myself for like the 20 th time since some people don't know how to identify an inconsistency. Magellan failing to tag luffy isn't an example of one, because there are no other scenes of him where he is able to do something more impressive than that, or where he appears stronger. Ive lost count of the number of times ive explained why ivankov lost and why jinbe fled from him, but essentially its because his poison makes him a terrible matchup for physical fighters, and yet despite this, ivankov was still able to injure him before being overwhelmed by his poison.

    As for doflamingo, he doesn't need the ito ito to blitz Magellan. Just sprinting up to him and delivering a barrage of kicks would do the job for sure, seeing how a pre ts jet bazooka had him on his knees and momentarily winded

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    Looks like ill have to repeat myself for like the 20 th time since some people don't know how to identify an inconsistency. Magellan failing to tag luffy isn't an example of one, because there are no other scenes of him where he is able to do something more impressive than that, or where he appears stronger. Ive lost count of the number of times ive explained why ivankov lost and why jinbe fled from him, but essentially its because his poison makes him a terrible matchup for physical fighters, and yet despite this, ivankov was still able to injure him before being overwhelmed by his poison.

    As for doflamingo, he doesn't need the ito ito to blitz Magellan. Just sprinting up to him and delivering a barrage of kicks would do the job for sure, seeing how a pre ts jet bazooka had him on his knees and momentarily winded
    All inconsistencies that are just there for drama or chapter cliffhangers, Drake. Get over it.

    Oda would never write Doffy downing Magellan with a bunch of goofy kicks. Get that shit out of here. You're grasping at straws. He's not winning against Magellan without his DF.


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    Fruitless Doffy still > G2 Luffy, Vergo, Sanji, Smoker >> Magellan

    But he ain't gonna neg diff
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    Doffy need awakening to defeat him, high diffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erkan12 View Post
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    Doffy need awakening to defeat him, high diffs.
    No way its going to be high diff.

    If Doffy can speed blitz Smoker and negged him. What will be different with Magellan?

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    Awsome. No attempt to refute the points i made or present evidence for his own, just some completely arbitrary shit about what Oda would and wouldn't write (according to no one but himself). Kong isn't half the debater he was when i first joined

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haki-User View Post
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    No way its going to be high diff.

    If Doffy can speed blitz Smoker and negged him. What will be different with Magellan?
    Doffy didn't blitz Smoker, Smoker didn't even try to resist him. Doffy is fast but not fast enough to blitz the likes of Sanji or Law. Magellan was able to overpower Ivankov with mid-diff, and Croco + Jinbe were running away from him. Not to mention he was fast enough cheap-shot Blackbeard and his crew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erkan12 View Post
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    Doffy didn't blitz Smoker, Smoker didn't even try to resist him. Doffy is fast but not fast enough to blitz the likes of Sanji or Law. Magellan was able to overpower Ivankov with mid-diff, and Croco + Jinbe were running away from him. Not to mention he was fast enough cheap-shot Blackbeard and his crew.
    i suggest you read post no.151

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erkan12 View Post
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    Doffy didn't blitz Smoker, Smoker didn't even try to resist him. Doffy is fast but not fast enough to blitz the likes of Sanji or Law. Magellan was able to overpower Ivankov with mid-diff, and Croco + Jinbe were running away from him. Not to mention he was fast enough cheap-shot Blackbeard and his crew.
    Uh.. Did you not see the panel correctly.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/698/11

    What proof do you have that Smoker did not resist. So he is just gonna let someone kill him for free lol?

    Doffy got pissed off and afterwards Smoker got taken out instantly. He was blitz and fodderized.

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    Ivanko, jinbei, and Croc are all low diff fights for Doffy.

    Doffy reaction speed is clearly superior to pre skip BB. If Doffy was in that scenario Doffy would just fly into the air and afterwards Magellan would die to awakening.
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    Lol at those pre-TS Luffy bazooka argument.... Luffy's attacks aren't always consistent, one time he break through 2 buildings, destoyed alabasta main ground over Crocodile, broke Arlong's giant sword with his fingers even without G2, even after post-TS he one-shots a Pasifista and Hajrudin with G2 and then he fails to do the same to Hyouzu and Gladious. In short ; Luffy's strength without G3 and G4 is very inconsistent.

    Luffy was able to throw Garp with one punch, he hurled Aokiji to sky with a kick and he did the same with Blackbeard.

    Magellan himself says that he underestimated Luffy and highly possible that Luffy was amped with that attack as he did many times before. Magellan is easily capable of resisting to Ivankov's martial attacks and Ivankov is strong enough to fodderize Sanji and he can knock down Kuma easily. Magellan is no joke.
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