ASOIAF/GOT Swordsman/Fighter Tier list

[ReXDrake]

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Andrik > Harras > Vic, right?

I'd place him below Areo Hotah and Darkstar. Loras Tyrell has the most potential currently though.

Its funny that loras is given all the attention and praise when his brother is by his own admission the better swordsman.

[PZ]

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Top Tier:
Aemon the Dragonknight
Daemon Blackfyre/Gwayne Corbray
Cregan Stark
Arthur Dayne/Barristan Selmy
Jaime Lannister/Gerold Hightower
Smiling Knight

High Tier (no particular order for first mentioned)
Aerys Kingsguard
Sandor Clegane>=Gregor Clegane
Aegor>=Brynden Rivers
Robert Baratheon
Garlan Tyrell
Brandon Stark
Andrik the Unsmilling
Lyn Corbray

Midd/Low High Tier:
Oberyn Martell
Gerold Dayne
Balon Swann
Areo Hotah
Loras Tyrell
Brienne
Rhaegar Targaryen
Syrio Forel
Khal Drogo

Guyard Morrigen
Robar Royce
Phillip Foote
Renlys Guard
Bronn
Kettleblacks?
Jon Snow
Meryn Trant
Boros Blount
Mance Rayder
Eddard Stark
Tumco Lho
Jorah Mormont
Obara Sand

Mid Tier(random knights/squires given some recognition/average fighters):
Daemon Sand
Mychel Redfort
Morros Slynt







let me know if ive missed someone

Just a couple of things. I think Dayne with the sword of morning is arguably on par with the Dragonknight (just a personal opinion).

Not convinced Jamie should be in that top tier, I'd probably see him at the top of high tier myself.

Oberyn is definitely a tier above where you have him, he was dancing around the mountain and could have killed him at many points.

Robert Baratheon is an absolute monster in the books. As far as I'm concerned, he should be pushing top tier.

Pretty sure GRR mentioned something about Darkstar being the most dangerous man in Dorne? I would potentially bump him up too. Khal Drogo and Syrio Forel seem a bit low too.

Howland Reed should be in high high tier imo based on feats vs the kingsguard.

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Edit: Bronn is a tier too low also.

[A]

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I'd move Oberyn up one and maybe put Jamie down 1 tier.

Jamie stated that their were 3 guy's that could "potentially" defeat him.

Nice, you're quoting the tv show.

[Phoenix]

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Nice, you're quoting the tv show.

My mistake. I found the quote.

"Robert had been stronger than him, to be sure. The White Bull Gerold Hightower as well, in his heyday, and Ser Arthur Dayne. Amongst the living, Greatjon Umber was stronger, Strongboar of Crakehall most likely, both Cleganes for a certainty"

[Fecal Excrmnt]

stronger than who? Jamie?

[Phoenix]

that's his pov.

Full Quote: Robert had been stronger than him, to be sure. The White Bull Gerold Hightower as well, in his heyday, and Ser Arthur Dayne. Amongst the living, Greatjon Umber was stronger, Strongboar of Crakehall most likely, both Cleganes for a certainty. (...)It did not matter. With speed and skill, Jaimie could beat them all.

Keep in mind this is his own opinion.

[Fecal Excrmnt]

was that pov before or after he lost his hand

[Maki]

Definitely think syrio should be higher. Doubt he got the title first sword of braavos lightly.

[A]

Jaime thinks he can beat them all, but Jaime is really arrogant so his opinion on himself is useless.

Brienne's quote was more interesting, I don't remember her exact words but she did imply he would be the strongest in all of Westeros before he was chained and prisoned.

Anyone have her quote?

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"He was weak from imprisonment, and chained at the wrists. No knight in the Seven Kingdoms could have stood against him at his full strength, with no chains to hamper him. Jaime had done many wicked things, but the man could fight! His maiming had been monstrously cruel. It was one thing to slay a lion, another to hack his paw off and leave him broken and bewildered."

– Brienne of Tarth remembering her fight with Jaime prior to Jaime losing his sword hand

[Phoenix]

how many swordsmen has Brienne encountered?

Grrm stated that Jamie was one of the best of all time. I'd put him below Dayne but in the same tier as him.

[ReXDrake]

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that's his pov.

Full Quote: Robert had been stronger than him, to be sure. The White Bull Gerold Hightower as well, in his heyday, and Ser Arthur Dayne. Amongst the living, Greatjon Umber was stronger, Strongboar of Crakehall most likely, both Cleganes for a certainty. (...)It did not matter. With speed and skill, Jaimie could beat them all.

Keep in mind this is his own opinion.

Based on the fact that other members of aerys kingsguard were excluded from that section it is implied that he is referring to their physical strength when he states them to be his superior. Dayne under the circumstances was superior to selmy and every other knight yet selmy isnt mentioned as someone he could beat "with speed and skill" so strength is the sole factor being mentioned

[Phoenix]

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Based on the fact that other members of aerys kingsguard were excluded from that section it is implied that he is referring to their physical strength when he states them to be his superior. Dayne under the circumstances was superior to selmy and every other knight yet selmy isnt mentioned as someone he could beat "with speed and skill" so strength is the sole factor being mentioned

I agree.

The Smiling Knight is not a top tier. Dayne defeated him rather easily. Jamie at the age of (15?) held his own against him for a brief amount of time.

[Rob]

Dat Tier set-up

Bronn should be Mid-High-Low-Left-Right-Mid-Upper-Top-Low-Sausage-MidLow-Mid-Top Tier.

Imo.

[A]

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how many swordsmen has Brienne encountered?

Plenty.

[ReXDrake]

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I agree.

The Smiling Knight is not a top tier. Dayne defeated him rather easily. Jamie at the age of (15?) held his own against him for a brief amount of time.

Hes a difficult one. Through Jaimes descriptions its clear he was an infamous and powerful swordsmen since he was the individual most people aspired to beat and had already received injuries by the time his sword broke against dayne suggesting that he was losing. High tier seems more likely to me

[Phoenix]

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Plenty.

*noteworthy swordsmen. she was having difficulty against a malnourished Jamie.

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Hes a difficult one. Through Jaimes descriptions its clear he was an infamous and powerful swordsmen since he was the individual most people aspired to beat and had already received injuries by the time his sword broke against dayne suggesting that he was losing. High tier seems more likely to me

I must have missed that. His duel with Dayne was epic.

Smiling Knight: It's that white sword of yours I want.
Arthur: Then you shall have it, ser



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God Tier
Arthur Dayne
Daemon Blackfyre
Aemon "Dragonknight" Targaryen
Cregan Stark
Gwayne Corbray

[ReXDrake]

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*noteworthy swordsmen. she was having difficulty against a malnourished Jamie.



I must have missed that. His duel with Dayne was epic.

Smiling Knight: It's that white sword of yours I want.
Arthur: Then you shall have it, ser



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God Tier
Arthur Dayne
Daemon Blackfyre
Aemon "Dragonknight" Targaryen
Cregan Stark
Gwayne Corbray

he was already injured when he fecthced another sword suggesting dayne was winning. I personally dont think anyone should be above either the man regarded as the most noble sowrdsmen nor the guy compared to the warrior himself.
Dayne was selmys equal andgwayne fought for an enitire hour which represents the closest margin you could get between two people, the circumstances of cregan vs aemon werent revealed, simply that cregan was the best after aemon so i dont think hed be above gwayne

aemon
daemon/gwayne
cregan
dayne/selmy

[Phoenix]

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he was already injured when he fecthced another sword suggesting dayne was winning. I personally dont think anyone should be above either the man regarded as the most noble sowrdsmen nor the guy compared to the warrior himself.
Dayne was selmys equal andgwayne fought for an enitire hour which represents the closest margin you could get between two people, the circumstances of cregan vs aemon werent revealed, simply that cregan was the best after aemon so i dont think hed be above gwayne

aemon
daemon/gwayne
cregan
dayne/selmy

The list was in no particular order. They all belong in a whole seperate tier though. All 6 of them could push each other to extreme diff, imo. Selmy would be the weakest though. Is it assumed that Cregan had Ice when he fought Aemon?

[ReXDrake]

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The list was in no particular order. They all belong in a whole seperate tier though. All 6 of them could push each other to extreme diff, imo. Selmy would be the weakest though. Is it assumed that Cregan had Ice when he fought Aemon?

he was the lord of winterfell so it is likely. I agree with selmy being the weakest even with valyrian weaponry