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    Andrik > Harras > Vic, right?

    I'd place him below Areo Hotah and Darkstar. Loras Tyrell has the most potential currently though.
    Its funny that loras is given all the attention and praise when his brother is by his own admission the better swordsman.






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    Top Tier:
    Aemon the Dragonknight
    Daemon Blackfyre/Gwayne Corbray
    Cregan Stark
    Arthur Dayne/Barristan Selmy
    Jaime Lannister/Gerold Hightower
    Smiling Knight

    High Tier (no particular order for first mentioned)
    Aerys Kingsguard
    Sandor Clegane>=Gregor Clegane
    Aegor>=Brynden Rivers
    Robert Baratheon
    Garlan Tyrell
    Brandon Stark
    Andrik the Unsmilling
    Lyn Corbray

    Midd/Low High Tier:
    Oberyn Martell
    Gerold Dayne
    Balon Swann
    Areo Hotah
    Loras Tyrell
    Brienne
    Rhaegar Targaryen
    Syrio Forel
    Khal Drogo

    Guyard Morrigen
    Robar Royce
    Phillip Foote
    Renlys Guard
    Bronn
    Kettleblacks?
    Jon Snow
    Meryn Trant
    Boros Blount
    Mance Rayder
    Eddard Stark
    Tumco Lho
    Jorah Mormont
    Obara Sand

    Mid Tier(random knights/squires given some recognition/average fighters):
    Daemon Sand
    Mychel Redfort
    Morros Slynt







    let me know if ive missed someone
    Just a couple of things. I think Dayne with the sword of morning is arguably on par with the Dragonknight (just a personal opinion).

    Not convinced Jamie should be in that top tier, I'd probably see him at the top of high tier myself.

    Oberyn is definitely a tier above where you have him, he was dancing around the mountain and could have killed him at many points.

    Robert Baratheon is an absolute monster in the books. As far as I'm concerned, he should be pushing top tier.

    Pretty sure GRR mentioned something about Darkstar being the most dangerous man in Dorne? I would potentially bump him up too. Khal Drogo and Syrio Forel seem a bit low too.

    Howland Reed should be in high high tier imo based on feats vs the kingsguard.

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    I'd move Oberyn up one and maybe put Jamie down 1 tier.

    Jamie stated that their were 3 guy's that could "potentially" defeat him.
    Nice, you're quoting the tv show.

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    Nice, you're quoting the tv show.
    My mistake. I found the quote.

    "Robert had been stronger than him, to be sure. The White Bull Gerold Hightower as well, in his heyday, and Ser Arthur Dayne. Amongst the living, Greatjon Umber was stronger, Strongboar of Crakehall most likely, both Cleganes for a certainty"


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    stronger than who? Jamie?

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    that's his pov.

    Full Quote: Robert had been stronger than him, to be sure. The White Bull Gerold Hightower as well, in his heyday, and Ser Arthur Dayne. Amongst the living, Greatjon Umber was stronger, Strongboar of Crakehall most likely, both Cleganes for a certainty. (...)It did not matter. With speed and skill, Jaimie could beat them all.

    Keep in mind this is his own opinion.


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    was that pov before or after he lost his hand

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    Definitely think syrio should be higher. Doubt he got the title first sword of braavos lightly.

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    Jaime thinks he can beat them all, but Jaime is really arrogant so his opinion on himself is useless.

    Brienne's quote was more interesting, I don't remember her exact words but she did imply he would be the strongest in all of Westeros before he was chained and prisoned.

    Anyone have her quote?

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    "He was weak from imprisonment, and chained at the wrists. No knight in the Seven Kingdoms could have stood against him at his full strength, with no chains to hamper him. Jaime had done many wicked things, but the man could fight! His maiming had been monstrously cruel. It was one thing to slay a lion, another to hack his paw off and leave him broken and bewildered."

    – Brienne of Tarth remembering her fight with Jaime prior to Jaime losing his sword hand

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    how many swordsmen has Brienne encountered?

    Grrm stated that Jamie was one of the best of all time. I'd put him below Dayne but in the same tier as him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
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    that's his pov.

    Full Quote: Robert had been stronger than him, to be sure. The White Bull Gerold Hightower as well, in his heyday, and Ser Arthur Dayne. Amongst the living, Greatjon Umber was stronger, Strongboar of Crakehall most likely, both Cleganes for a certainty. (...)It did not matter. With speed and skill, Jaimie could beat them all.

    Keep in mind this is his own opinion.

    Based on the fact that other members of aerys kingsguard were excluded from that section it is implied that he is referring to their physical strength when he states them to be his superior. Dayne under the circumstances was superior to selmy and every other knight yet selmy isnt mentioned as someone he could beat "with speed and skill" so strength is the sole factor being mentioned






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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    Based on the fact that other members of aerys kingsguard were excluded from that section it is implied that he is referring to their physical strength when he states them to be his superior. Dayne under the circumstances was superior to selmy and every other knight yet selmy isnt mentioned as someone he could beat "with speed and skill" so strength is the sole factor being mentioned
    I agree.

    The Smiling Knight is not a top tier. Dayne defeated him rather easily. Jamie at the age of (15?) held his own against him for a brief amount of time.

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    Dat Tier set-up

    Bronn should be Mid-High-Low-Left-Right-Mid-Upper-Top-Low-Sausage-MidLow-Mid-Top Tier.

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    Rob always has the last word. In fact, I'd argue that Rob > God.

    At least Rob wouldn't give us the appendix and call it an intelligent design.

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    how many swordsmen has Brienne encountered?
    Plenty.

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    I agree.

    The Smiling Knight is not a top tier. Dayne defeated him rather easily. Jamie at the age of (15?) held his own against him for a brief amount of time.
    Hes a difficult one. Through Jaimes descriptions its clear he was an infamous and powerful swordsmen since he was the individual most people aspired to beat and had already received injuries by the time his sword broke against dayne suggesting that he was losing. High tier seems more likely to me






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    Plenty.
    *noteworthy swordsmen. she was having difficulty against a malnourished Jamie.

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    Hes a difficult one. Through Jaimes descriptions its clear he was an infamous and powerful swordsmen since he was the individual most people aspired to beat and had already received injuries by the time his sword broke against dayne suggesting that he was losing. High tier seems more likely to me
    I must have missed that. His duel with Dayne was epic.

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    God Tier
    Arthur Dayne
    Daemon Blackfyre
    Aemon "Dragonknight" Targaryen
    Cregan Stark
    Gwayne Corbray

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
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    *noteworthy swordsmen. she was having difficulty against a malnourished Jamie.



    I must have missed that. His duel with Dayne was epic.

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    Arthur Dayne
    Daemon Blackfyre
    Aemon "Dragonknight" Targaryen
    Cregan Stark
    Gwayne Corbray
    he was already injured when he fecthced another sword suggesting dayne was winning. I personally dont think anyone should be above either the man regarded as the most noble sowrdsmen nor the guy compared to the warrior himself.
    Dayne was selmys equal andgwayne fought for an enitire hour which represents the closest margin you could get between two people, the circumstances of cregan vs aemon werent revealed, simply that cregan was the best after aemon so i dont think hed be above gwayne

    aemon
    daemon/gwayne
    cregan
    dayne/selmy






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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    he was already injured when he fecthced another sword suggesting dayne was winning. I personally dont think anyone should be above either the man regarded as the most noble sowrdsmen nor the guy compared to the warrior himself.
    Dayne was selmys equal andgwayne fought for an enitire hour which represents the closest margin you could get between two people, the circumstances of cregan vs aemon werent revealed, simply that cregan was the best after aemon so i dont think hed be above gwayne

    aemon
    daemon/gwayne
    cregan
    dayne/selmy
    The list was in no particular order. They all belong in a whole seperate tier though. All 6 of them could push each other to extreme diff, imo. Selmy would be the weakest though. Is it assumed that Cregan had Ice when he fought Aemon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
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    The list was in no particular order. They all belong in a whole seperate tier though. All 6 of them could push each other to extreme diff, imo. Selmy would be the weakest though. Is it assumed that Cregan had Ice when he fought Aemon?
    he was the lord of winterfell so it is likely. I agree with selmy being the weakest even with valyrian weaponry






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