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  1. #3981
    Tashigi is just a poorly handled character like the Seats.

    On paper, they should be stronger or on par with certain characters but their competence level ruins them. No problem with Tashigi being above Nami given where her stats should be if Oda just treated her properly. Like the Seats being canonically above Gladius and technically no weaker than Vergo but the feats or portrayal fuck our views of how strong they actually are.
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  2. #3982
    The characters that seemed most dispute between the tier is Caesar Clown, who Oro rank among with the lower seats like Trebol and diamante. While OPB ranked alongside with Sanji, Pica, Vergo, Hancock and Kuma. And of course MF rank CC alongside with Monet, Moriah, Enel, Hody Jones.

    Other dispute characters seemed to be Oars Jr, Bellamy post skipped, Wadatsumi, Machvise and Hajrudin, Pekoms

    In lesser extend, Luffy, Jinbe, Hancock and Kuma.

  3. #3983
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    Do you remember who has haki and was leagues far from nami?

    Kalifa

    Do you rember who was a top tier and was leagues behind nami?

    Miss doublefinger

    Nami just fights when she has to and if she was one on one with Tashigi she would defeat her.
    Specific naming of techniques and etc aside, in both instances Kalifa and Doublefinger were extremely lenient in fighting Nami. Doublefinger was practically babying Nami their fight and didn't get acknowledge Nami as a threat until she was struck by lightning. Kalifa was just looking at Nami for a good percentage of the fight as well (remember her taking a bath in the presence of her enemy and etc?). Now sure, Nami won. No one should take that victory away from her. But if either of these characters were serious from the beginning, especially Doublefinger, Nami's victory isn't so assured.

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    I didn't even know about them but in SBS 75 it is said that they were candidates to become Admirals

    http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Tokik...e_note-intro-0

    http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Gion

    Just like admirals their names follow they're based on REAL ACTORS and have animals and color themes associated to them

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    holy crap this has withered and died

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    holy crap this has withered and died
    Corus never updates.

  7. #3987
    Updated the list with Cracker and Smoothie into A-

    I'll assume there isn't any disagreement to this placement.

    and we should start adding the Big Mom commanders like Bobbins and Opera.

    Bobbins for B:
    Bobbins for B-: Chen Xin

    Opera for B:
    Opera for B-: Chen Xin





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    Sounds about right for them. It seems like Bobbins got taken so easily because the bullets Capone and co used are of some really strong material but we should probably wait too see more of Bobbins before we move him above B- and putting Opera there seems fair enough since getting up after maybe not even a hour from Jinbie's kick was impressive and indicates that he could be really strong. Tamago being in B seems good, he will probably be impressive enough in duke chicken form in order to deserve that ranking.

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    Sounds about right for them. It seems like Bobbins got taken so easily because the bullets Capone and co used are of some really strong material but we should probably wait too see more of Bobbins before we move him above B- and putting Opera there seems fair enough since getting up after maybe not even a hour from Jinbie's kick was impressive and indicates that he could be really strong. Tamago being in B seems good, he will probably be impressive enough in duke chicken form in order to deserve that ranking.
    Added Opera to B-

    What do you think about Pekoms?





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    Well he did get really hurt by Capone's gun which might indicate he should be lower but it's looking more and more like the guns Capone and co uses are really powerful so can't really use that against Pekoms so i say we wait until we see more from him and can decide more how strong he is before we move him down so lets keep him in B for now.

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    Pedro for B
    Sicilian for B

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    Well he did get really hurt by Capone's gun which might indicate he should be lower but it's looking more and more like the guns Capone and co uses are really powerful so can't really use that against Pekoms so i say we wait until we see more from him and can decide more how strong he is before we move him down so lets keep him in B for now.
    He was shot by Gatling Guns. Not Rifles or pistols, but Gatling guns to his unprotected backside. Much stronger characters would have been severely hurt by such an attack. Shouldn't be a knock on him at all. If anything Oda drew those guns to keep his portrayal intact.

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    Checked back on that scene and you are completely right, that was my bad. I remembered it as him just being shot by one gun but yeah he got shot by several guns which would hurt anyone a lot so it's not anything you can use against Pekoms regardless really. Unlike me to forget such a detail but it happens.
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  14. #3994
    Nothing puts Bobbins or Opera in B class

    they are more comparable to C+ levels

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    also Yeti brothers being in the same rank as God Enel is absolutely retarded

    Enel was overconfident, but still have the most powerful logia fruit + mastery of CoO

    IMO Enel is B+, while Yeti fodders are C/C-

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    Quote Originally Posted by HisMajestyMihawk View Post
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    Nothing puts Bobbins or Opera in B class

    they are more comparable to C+ levels

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    also Yeti brothers being in the same rank as God Enel is absolutely retarded

    Enel was overconfident, but still have the most powerful logia fruit + mastery of CoO

    IMO Enel is B+, while Yeti fodders are C/C-
    It's 2017 and you still think Enel is that strong .

  16. #3996
    Oda himself said Enel would have 500+ billion bounty

    stop deluding yourself. Just because Luffy beat him doesn't make him weak. Enel is more powerful than Lucci and Moria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HisMajestyMihawk View Post
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    Oda himself said Enel would have 500+ billion bounty

    stop deluding yourself. Just because Luffy beat him doesn't make him weak. Enel is more powerful than Lucci and Moria.
    Doesn't mean he'd be B+ though. Luffy had a bounty of 400mil end of pre-skip and yet he'd still be fodder to people like Sanji who's bounty is only 177mil.

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    Doesn't mean he'd be B+ though. Luffy had a bounty of 400mil end of pre-skip and yet he'd still be fodder to people like Sanji who's bounty is only 177mil.
    and what have Yeti fodders done to put them at Enel's level?

  19. #3999
    The Yeti Cool Brothers tanked an attack from postskip Monster Chopper irrc.

    For the characters to be put in B-

    they have to be able to defeat a Pacifista.





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    Quote Originally Posted by HisMajestyMihawk View Post
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    and what have Yeti fodders done to put them at Enel's level?
    Put them in Z+ for all I care point is Enel is not as strong as your making him out to be.

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