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Tokio
04-03-2016, 03:39 AM
http://i.imgur.com/tSBMMyH.gif
Jason Stathman, is that you?



​Name: Jacob Lessio
Origin: Fairy Tail
Gender: Male
Classification: Human, Spriggan 12 Member, Assassin
Powers and Abilities: Super speed, strength, endurance, durability, agility, ability to see whats invisible, can make himself and other things invisible
Weaknesses: Female nudity
Destructive Capacity: City level+ (large scale destruction isn't the aim of his abilities, but can compete with people with at least this much physical capabilities)
Range: Human melee, extended melee range with weapons, a few hundred meters with spatial magic
Speed: Massively hypersonic
Durability: City level+
Lifting Strength: likely Class K+
Striking Strength: ​PJ+
Stamina: Superhuman
Standard Equipment: A variety of mostly non specified weaponry
Intelligence: Excels in hand-to-hand combat, master assassin(according to him has never once failed an assassination), extensive battle experience
Notable Attacks/Techniques:

Transport: Allows Jacob to "transport" other human beings to a separate dimension by clapping his hands. Has a range of no less than the size of Fairy Tail's guild. All those caught with his magic will vanish, except those with non physical bodies. Can arm those trapped in his "transport" at will.

Stealth: Allows him to turn himself and other objects he chooses invisible, effectively completely erasing the presence of what he turns invisible. Stealth also allows him to see what would normally be invisible to the naked eye.

Fortune
04-03-2016, 03:41 AM
Tired of these guys relying on scaling. http://i.imgur.com/6HCZcom.png

Break out of city level pleeeease.

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Just realized Brandish would be a hard counter to this guy. :booker

W
04-03-2016, 03:44 AM
That weakness :mihawk

Tokio
04-03-2016, 03:47 AM
Tired of these guys relying on scaling. http://i.imgur.com/6HCZcom.png

Break out of city level pleeeease.

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Just realized Brandish would be a hard counter to this guy. :booker

Jacob's actually the only one so far that I'd put at City Level+

Other ones I'd say are at least Mountain level+

but yeah, they do need feats of their own

Fortune
04-03-2016, 03:53 AM
Jacob's actually the only one so far that I'd put at City Level+

Other ones I'd say are at least Mountain level+

but yeah, they do need feats of their own
Why are they mountain +? You put them at city + did you not? :hmm

Tokio
04-03-2016, 04:09 AM
Why are they mountain +? You put them at city + did you not? :hmm

I put the other ones at Mountain+ via power scaling because all the other ones for the most part have proven themselves stronger than Natsu.

Azir's the only one that wouldn't get the DC, but that's mainly because his ability doesn't focus on large scale destruction.

Fortune
04-03-2016, 04:10 AM
I put the other ones at Mountain+ via power scaling because all the other ones for the most part have proven themselves stronger than Natsu.

Azir's the only one that wouldn't get the DC, but that's mainly because his ability doesn't focus on large scale destruction.
Base Natsu?

Tokio
04-03-2016, 04:13 AM
Base Natsu?

base FDK attacks

Fortune
04-03-2016, 04:15 AM
base FDK attacks
Base FDK attacks. That sounds so contradicting lol.

Fair enough though.

Might as well go edit the profiles then.

Tokio
04-03-2016, 04:20 AM
Base FDK attacks. That sounds so contradicting lol.

Fair enough though.

Might as well go edit the profiles then.

that was bad phrasing lol.

only other spriggan profile i've done was brandish's

Fortune
04-03-2016, 04:27 AM
that was bad phrasing lol.

only other spriggan profile i've done was brandish's
Oh shit.

Then get to it. :pepper

The Will Of G
04-03-2016, 04:37 AM
This forum is fucked. Jacob isn't even a building buster let alone city level :caesar

W
04-03-2016, 04:38 AM
This forum is fucked. Jacob isn't even a building buster let alone city level :zaru
Power scaling is a thing you know?

Fortune
04-03-2016, 04:41 AM
Power scaling is a thing you know?
He's right though.

Jacob is like, titty level.

Nigga can't even tank seeing a nude chick.

Reality
04-03-2016, 04:41 AM
This forum is fucked. Jacob isn't even a building buster let alone city level :caesar
You're the same guy pegging Marco at country level. :heston

W
04-03-2016, 04:42 AM
He's right though.

Jacob is like, titty level.

Nigga can't even tank seeing a nude chick.
:heston:heston

not a stalker
04-03-2016, 12:28 PM
I put the other ones at Mountain+ via power scaling because all the other ones for the most part have proven themselves stronger than Natsu.

Azir's the only one that wouldn't get the DC, but that's mainly because his ability doesn't focus on large scale destruction.
If you want to, I might update my Wahl profile to a more serious profile :lmao

Looks good btw

Le nettoyeur
04-03-2016, 12:52 PM
His durability isn't city level

Efege
04-03-2016, 12:56 PM
brandish>jacob http://i.imgur.com/KdSx4Ww.gif

Le nettoyeur
04-03-2016, 12:58 PM
Also to be city level in AP, he should hurt a character with city level durability
So far, this is thanks to his abilitie that he doesn't get one shoted from the start by base Natsu

RoyalIce
04-03-2016, 01:01 PM
I put the other ones at Mountain+ via power scaling because all the other ones for the most part have proven themselves stronger than Natsu.

Azir's the only one that wouldn't get the DC, but that's mainly because his ability doesn't focus on large scale destruction.
Dont really see what would put them above Natsu. The only ones he faced were Jacob and Azir. Azirs sand got easily burned by Natsu while Jacob got wasted by a FDK move.

Tokio
04-03-2016, 01:12 PM
If you want to, I might update my Wahl profile to a more serious profile :lmao

Looks good btw

That would be dope :33

thanks


His durability isn't city level

Natsu is casually city+ in base. Jacob took a few attacks from him without significant damage.


Also to be city level in AP, he should hurt a character with city level durability
So far, this is thanks to his abilitie that he doesn't get one shoted from the start by base Natsu

While not necessarily extensive, he did give Natsu notable damage and compete with him physically.

http://img.mangastream.com/cdn/manga/3/3306/03.pnghttp://img.mangastream.com/cdn/manga/3/3306/04.pnghttp://img.mangastream.com/cdn/manga/3/3306/05.png

http://img.mangastream.com/cdn/manga/3/3320/05.pnghttp://img.mangastream.com/cdn/manga/3/3320/06.png


Dont really see what would put them above Natsu. The only ones he faced were Jacob and Azir. Azirs sand got easily burned by Natsu while Jacob got wasted by a FDK move.

When confronted by both Azir and Brandish he reached for his bandages, implying that he didn't believe he'd be able to take them out without it. Erza's attacks tickled Azir prior to her exploiting his weakness. Jacob's the only one that hasn't shown himself to be above Natsu, hence his stats only being City level.

Le nettoyeur
04-03-2016, 01:14 PM
That would be dope :33

thanks



Natsu is casually city+ in base. Jacob took a few attacks from him without significant damage.



While not necessarily extensive, he did give Natsu notable damage and compete with him physically.

http://img.mangastream.com/cdn/manga/3/3306/03.pnghttp://img.mangastream.com/cdn/manga/3/3306/04.pnghttp://img.mangastream.com/cdn/manga/3/3306/05.png

http://img.mangastream.com/cdn/manga/3/3320/05.pnghttp://img.mangastream.com/cdn/manga/3/3320/06.png



When confronted by both Azir and Brandish he reached for his bandages, implying that he didn't believe he'd be able to take them out without it. Erza's attacks tickled Azir prior to her exploiting his weakness. Jacob's the only one that hasn't shown himself to be above Natsu, hence his stats only being City level.
You need to prove that first

Tokio
04-03-2016, 01:18 PM
You need to prove that first

It's already an accepted stat for him. People below him like Mard Geer were capable of that much casually.

Fist of Destruction
04-03-2016, 01:19 PM
Why are people randomely giving city level shit ? Powerscale lol

Le nettoyeur
04-03-2016, 01:21 PM
It's already an accepted stat for him. People below him like Mard Geer were capable of that much casually.
You say in base, which means no FDKM moves, modes and so on
Show me then how via scans or legit calc
City level + is high double or triple digit megatons IIRC, how he is city level + in base ?

Fist of Destruction
04-03-2016, 01:21 PM
Okay i forgot he tank Natsu attack ... profile seems okay

Albion
04-03-2016, 01:22 PM
Natsu has been City Level for a long time now. Don't know why that's being brought up.

Fist of Destruction
04-03-2016, 01:23 PM
Fdk Natsu is Mountain level

Le nettoyeur
04-03-2016, 01:26 PM
Fdk Natsu is Mountain level
He never show something like that

Tokio
04-03-2016, 01:29 PM
You say in base, which means no FDKM moves, modes and so on
Show me then how via scans or legit calc
City level + is high double or triple digit megatons IIRC, how he is city level + in base ?

I see this just stems from some confusion.

City level+ is anywhere between 50 MT and 99 MT, or something like that. Natsu's sitting at about 51 MT.

100 MT and up is Mountain level.

Le nettoyeur
04-03-2016, 01:32 PM
I see this just stems from some confusion.

City level+ is anywhere between 50 MT and 99 MT, or something like that. Natsu's sitting at about 51 MT.

100 MT and up is Mountain level.
I see and then, from who or what feat Natsu get 51 MT in base ?

Tokio
04-03-2016, 01:35 PM
I see and then, from who or what feat Natsu get 51 MT in base ?

The CSK destroying the Tartarus Cube scales to him and anyone else above Mard Geer.

RoyalIce
04-03-2016, 01:37 PM
When confronted by both Azir and Brandish he reached for his bandages, implying that he didn't believe he'd be able to take them out without it. Erza's attacks tickled Azir prior to her exploiting his weakness. Jacob's the only one that hasn't shown himself to be above Natsu, hence his stats only being City level.
Come on thats a huge assumption right there. Natsu showing that he can easily evaporate Azirs sand without FDK flames just shows that he is on their lvl. Erza is below Natsu atm imo

Vikkstar123
04-03-2016, 01:39 PM
Soo... City Level+ Lucy confirmed? :huh

Le nettoyeur
04-03-2016, 01:56 PM
The CSK destroying the Tartarus Cube scales to him and anyone else above Mard Geer.
CSK is stronger than base natsu

Tokio
04-03-2016, 01:58 PM
Come on thats a huge assumption right there. Natsu showing that he can easily evaporate Azirs sand without FDK flames just shows that he is on their lvl. Erza is below Natsu atm imo

Not really. There's no reason why he'd reach for his bandages otherwise. Natsu was actually overwhelmed by Azir's more serious attack.

http://img.mangastream.to/manga/fairy-tail/447/04.pnghttp://img.mangastream.to/manga/fairy-tail/447/05.png

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Soo... City Level+ Lucy confirmed? :huh

Only with CSK.


CSK is stronger than base natsu

Mard Geer was able to without effort match the CSK's attacks. Natsu is blatantly above Mard.

Vikkstar123
04-03-2016, 02:09 PM
Only with CSK.Lucy damaged Jacob (via Loke) and endured multiple attacks from him without the CSK though.

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Does that make her City/City+ level?

RoyalIce
04-03-2016, 02:11 PM
Not really. There's no reason why he'd reach for his bandages otherwise. Natsu was actually overwhelmed by Azir's more serious attack.

http://img.mangastream.to/manga/fairy-tail/447/04.pnghttp://img.mangastream.to/manga/fairy-tail/447/05.png

Natsu also got overwhelmed by DF Sting at first but still beat him casually. I dont see how this proves anything.

Le nettoyeur
04-03-2016, 02:33 PM
Mard Geer was able to without effort match the CSK's attacks. Natsu is blatantly above Mard.
Mard geer was able to toy with base Natsu as well, so I don't see your point here

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Lucy damaged Jacob (via Loke) and endured multiple attacks from him without the CSK though.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-aOiZRZ452aQ/Vu2entY6ijI/AAAAAAADQWU/ZstXvxY6bkQ-hNkzCpYTDKCeoxqxMkQ0gCHM/s16000/0478-010.png

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Does that make her City/City+ level?
Another flaw

Tokio
04-03-2016, 02:36 PM
Lucy damaged Jacob (via Loke) and endured multiple attacks from him without the CSK though.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-aOiZRZ452aQ/Vu2entY6ijI/AAAAAAADQWU/ZstXvxY6bkQ-hNkzCpYTDKCeoxqxMkQ0gCHM/s16000/0478-010.png

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Does that make her City/City+ level?

No, because she didn't actually give him any notable damage and the attacks were still clearly above her level.


Natsu also got overwhelmed by DF Sting at first but still beat him casually. I dont see how this proves anything.

Natsu admittedly wasn't fighting seriously up until the end of the fight. He was serious with the Spriggan from the beginning.


Mard geer was able to toy with base Natsu as well, so I don't see your point here

Prior to the skip. We're talking about post skip Natsu.

Le nettoyeur
04-03-2016, 02:39 PM
Prior to the skip. We're talking about post skip Natsu.
Then you are assuming that he is above Mard geer in base without solid basis

Tokio
04-03-2016, 02:47 PM
Then you are assuming that he is above Mard geer in base without solid basis

Current Natsu is above Pre skip DF Natsu by feats. Pre skip DF Natsu overwhelmed even Etherious Mard.

Le nettoyeur
04-03-2016, 02:50 PM
Current Natsu is above Pre skip DF Natsu by feats. Pre skip DF Natsu overwhelmed even Etherious Mard.
How current base Natsu is above his Pre skip DF form ?
It's like saying current base Wendy is above her Pre DF form

Tokio
04-03-2016, 02:54 PM
How current base Natsu is above his Pre skip DF form ?
It's like saying current base Wendy is above her Pre DF form

Pre skip DF wasn't capable of this:

http://img.mangastream.to/manga/fairy-tail/418/026.png

Nor was he capable of one-shotting someone on Bluenote's level.

Le nettoyeur
04-03-2016, 02:56 PM
Pre skip DF wasn't capable of this:

http://img.mangastream.to/manga/fairy-tail/418/026.png

Nor was he capable of one-shotting someone on Bluenote's level.
That doesn't make him above Mard geer sorry

Tokio
04-03-2016, 02:57 PM
That doesn't make him above Mard geer sorry

Performing physical feats that even Mard has shown not to be capable of? It kinda does.

Le nettoyeur
04-03-2016, 03:03 PM
Performing physical feats that even Mard has shown not to be capable of? It kinda does.
Those feats aren't 51 MT, they are town level via calc IIRC
That being say, I'm not feeling continuing like that forever so let's agree to disagree

Tokio
04-03-2016, 03:14 PM
Scaling is the whole thing here.

Le nettoyeur
04-03-2016, 03:16 PM
Scaling is the whole thing here.
Like I said, I personally don't agree with that kind of scaling, have a good day

Vikkstar123
04-03-2016, 03:53 PM
No, because she didn't actually give him any notable damage and the attacks were still clearly above her level.I'm not saying Lucy can give Jacob trouble in a 1v1 fight. I'm just saying that as far as Attack Potency, Striking Strength and maybe Durability goes, Lucy (with Loke and Leo Star Dress) shouldn't be that far behind him based on her performance against him. If he's Class PJ+ (which I doubt), Lucy should be at least City level for enduring multiple punches and kicks from him just fine. And if he has City+ Level durability, Lucy should be Class PJ via Loke for at least somewhat damaging Jacob.

Characters as physically strong as Laxus or Wahl being Class PJ+ is debatable. No offense, but Jacob being that strong sounds pretty ridiculous to me since he's obviously not on their level physically. Lucy would either be KO'd or severely injured after only a few good hits from either of them. Jacob hit Lucy more than a few times and didn't even come close to severely damaging her. Just look at her ->

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T0sV7aIiK4c/Vvms7AVUxVI/AAAAAAAD6BQ/HjbAP0L6TOk0TdHfM9f4MAE2O04NsOhFgCHM/s16000/0479-009.png
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A punch from a non-serious Wahl ->

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4dDHwUvoaKc/Vrjr-ZtFhBI/AAAAAAAFKz8/eaviWEuX2iw/s16000/0472-016.jpg
A kick from a nerfed Laxus ->

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uAgFcFQ0mZA/Vrjr-wunRzI/AAAAAAAFK0A/3ldwTu1flxc/s16000/0472-017.jpg
A punch from Jacob ->

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And Natsu was holding back at that point. As soon as he didn't, Jacob got rekt.

What makes Jacob really dangerous is his hax. Not his CQC/AP/Speed/whatever. Same thing with Dimaria & Brandish btw.

Tokio
04-03-2016, 04:09 PM
I'm not saying Lucy can give Jacob trouble in a 1v1 fight. I'm just saying that as far as Attack Potency, Striking Strength and maybe Durability goes, Lucy (with Loke and Leo Star Dress) shouldn't be that far behind him based on her performance against him. If he's Class PJ+ (which I doubt), Lucy should be at least City level for enduring multiple punches and kicks from him just fine. And if he has City+ Level durability, Lucy should be Class PJ via Loke for at least somewhat damaging Jacob.

You're right.


Characters as physically strong as Laxus or Wahl being Class PJ+ is debatable. No offense, but Jacob being that strong sounds pretty ridiculous to me since he's obviously not on their level physically. Lucy would either be KO'd or severely injured after only a few good hits from either of them. Jacob hit Lucy more than a few times and didn't even come close to severely damaging her. Just look at her ->

Gotta keep in the mind that the scaling is coming from a character significantly weaker than all of them. Their getting somewhat similar scaling isn't to say that they're on the same level, it's just the minimum that we can give them with the lack of feats we have presently separating their strengths. Jacob would need at the very least that much to compete with Natsu physically, a person who has already proven himself via feats to be casually above the person they're getting scaled to.



And Natsu was holding back at that point. As soon as he didn't, Jacob got rekt.

What makes Jacob really dangerous is his hax. Not his CQC/AP/Speed/whatever. Same thing with Dimaria & Brandish btw.

What Natsu needed to take Jacob down was a power notably beyond Natsu's base strength.

RoyalIce
04-03-2016, 05:04 PM
Natsu admittedly wasn't fighting seriously up until the end of the fight. He was serious with the Spriggan from the beginning.


When did he say he wasnt serious? He got overwhelmed but saw through Stings habits. I dont really get why people think just because someone gets overwhelmed the other person automatically has to be stronger lol.

Tokio
04-03-2016, 05:20 PM
When did he say he wasnt serious? He got overwhelmed but saw through Stings habits. I dont really get why people think just because someone gets overwhelmed the other person automatically has to be stronger lol.

He said something along the lines of "I see... Then I'll use my full power to fight for the friends you laughed at", towards Sting after he challenged the two of them by himself.

Natsu completely overpowered their combined attack, it wasn't a matter of seeing through their technique.

Overpowering/overwhelming someone does directly translate to that person being stronger :/

Besides that was just supplementation for everything else that explicitly said Azir was stronger.

RoyalIce
04-03-2016, 06:01 PM
He said something along the lines of "I see... Then I'll use my full power to fight for the friends you laughed at", towards Sting after he challenged the two of them by himself.

Natsu completely overpowered their combined attack, it wasn't a matter of seeing through their technique.

Overpowering/overwhelming someone does directly translate to that person being stronger :/

Besides that was just supplementation for everything else that explicitly said Azir was stronger.
I dont think he said "full" power. He was serious from the beginning since Sabertooth was beating the shit out of Lucy before. He even said after Sting overwhelmed them that he now saw through all his habits and appearantly completly saw through his fighting style.
Not all the time though. If someone suddenly gets a huge power up like Stings DF for example its obvious you are overwhelmed at first since the power lvl of the opponent completly changed.

A good example would be Bleach when Hitsugaya and co fought the arrancar with their power being limited. When it got released they won the fight quite easily it seemed. But they said if they would have fought at full power from the get go the fight could have also ended differently.

Tokio
04-03-2016, 06:18 PM
I dont think he said "full" power. He was serious from the beginning since Sabertooth was beating the shit out of Lucy before. He even said after Sting overwhelmed them that he now saw through all his habits and appearantly completly saw through his fighting style.
Not all the time though. If someone suddenly gets a huge power up like Stings DF for example its obvious you are overwhelmed at first since the power lvl of the opponent completly changed.

Evidently he wasn't serious from the beginning since he blatantly overpowered their each and every technique after the fact.

He did say that, but quite clearly that wasn't the key to winning the fight. We see Natsu straight up overpower the two of them throughout the entire chapter following.

Being caught off guard and overwhelmed are two different things.


A good example would be Bleach when Hitsugaya and co fought the arrancar with their power being limited. When it got released they won the fight quite easily it seemed. But they said if they would have fought at full power from the get go the fight could have also ended differently.

Yeah, they capitalized on their being caught off guard but acknowledged their power may not have been enough to actually defeat them otherwise.

Sting & Rogue actually flat out acknowledged that Natsu's overwhelming power is what took them out:

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Similarly, Team Natsu also explicitly acknowledge that Brandish and Azir are stronger than they are:

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Fortune
05-07-2016, 11:46 PM
Still hard to believe this guy is City level. :gilogio

This guy really has City level fucking back suplexes and DDTs?

Accelerator
05-09-2016, 03:07 AM
City level+ DC, get punched like a bug by town level Makarov
:heston

Tokio
05-09-2016, 03:09 AM
He wasn't actually hurt by Makarov's punch tho.

SonDeathEater
05-09-2016, 03:51 AM
As far as I'm concerned, Jacob's Durability is at best town+ / city level being generous powerscaling.

Skeptik
05-09-2016, 03:10 PM
As far as I'm concerned, Jacob's Durability is at best town+ / city level being generous powerscaling.

I agree with that. City level durabity seems to be just because of power scaling. His most impressive ability was through hax.

Tokio
05-09-2016, 03:18 PM
City level+ is the least he could be. Per word of God any given Spriggan is more powerful than any villain in the series' past. Even if physical stats isn't necessarily his strong point he's not losing out to casual attacks from Mard any time soon. That and he's already taken a number of attacks from Natsu.

Skeptik
05-09-2016, 03:25 PM
City level+ is the least he could be. Per word of God any given Spriggan is more powerful than any villain in the series' past. Even if physical stats isn't necessarily his strong point he's not losing out to casual attacks from Mard any time soon. That and he's already taken a number of attacks from Natsu.

Are all of base natsus attacks city level?

Tokio
05-09-2016, 03:27 PM
Yeah.

Skeptik
05-09-2016, 03:35 PM
Yeah.

Now that I'm not certain of. Perhaps his named attacks are. Did he use any on Jacob prior to fdkm?

Tokio
05-09-2016, 03:37 PM
His casual AP is easily that by virtue of his being stronger than Mard Geer. And yes, he did use named attacks.

Skeptik
05-09-2016, 04:00 PM
His casual AP is easily that by virtue of his being stronger than Mard Geer. And yes, he did use named attacks.

Tell me the chapter pls, cuz all I recall is h2h combat til the guild came back

Tokio
05-09-2016, 04:05 PM
Natsu's magic encompasses primarily h2h combat. End of chapter 478 he uses his 'Fire Dragon's Claw'.

Rax
05-17-2016, 06:54 AM
He's much faster than this

COV
09-05-2016, 03:45 PM
Secret Technique: Shutting the Eyes, should be added, since he can fight while unable to see, even when it is a female.

Rax
09-05-2016, 04:39 PM
The Ultimate technique!! :argh