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Ichiryuu
05-24-2015, 07:57 PM
We've been told that the circumference of the planet was 220,000 KM which would make the planet 5.5x as big as Earth in Circumference.

someone posted this on another site to confirm and calc the surface area, Circumference etc.

Circumference = 2 * Pi * R

Circumference divided by 2 then divided by Pi = Radius


Sphere Surface Area = 4 * Pi * r^2


Earth surface area = 510,100,000 KM^2
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220000 = 2 * Pi * R


220000 / 2 = 110000 / 3.14 = 35031 KM radius


Sphere Surface Area = 4 * 3.14 * 35031^2 = 15,413,267,270.2 Km^2 / 510,100,000 = 30 Earth surfaces


But Recently in another chapter we heard from Kaka that the Toriko planet is 659 times bigger in area than it originally was.

Assuming that the Toriko planet was originally earth and that it grew overtime we can come to these conclusions:


Planet | Surface Area

Earth = 510,064,472 km2
Jupiter = 61,418,738,571 km2
Toriko P. = 336,137,448,000 km2
Sun = 6,078,747,774,547 km2

This would mean that the Toriko planet has more than 5 times the surface area of Jupiter and about 1/20th of the suns.

But this doesn't make any sense at all if you compare it to his previous statement of the circumference being 220,000KM.

Is the Toriko planet a really weird shape? Did Mitsutoshi Retcon the size of the Toriko Planet? Was the Toriko Planet simply originally not earth to begin with? Were there translation errors? Was he possibly only talking about Area 7 when Bambina threw mountains?

Discuss.

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Current conclusion on Toriko Planet's size:

- Circumference: 348,350 KM / 216,455 Miles (around 8.7x the circumference of earth)
- Radius: 55,441.6 KM
- Diameter: 110,883 KM
- Volume: 713,833,358,201,514 KM3 (659x Earths Volume)
- Surface Area: 3.86262 x 10^10 KM2 (0.63x Jupiters Surface Area, 5.1x Neptunes Surface Area, 76x Earths Surface Area)

What it would look like compared with our planets.

http://oi60.tinypic.com/qye1l3.jpg


> Downgraded to 220,000KM circumference until stated differently in the manga.

Kane
05-24-2015, 08:10 PM
Scans?

Ichiryuu
05-24-2015, 08:14 PM
http://bato.to/read/_/284575/toriko_ch301_by_hi-wa-mata-noboru/10
for the 220,000KM circumference.

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http://bato.to/read/_/321250/toriko_ch323_by_hi-wa-mata-noboru/5
for the 659 times bigger than its original surface area.

TheBaldHeadedNegro

Egress
05-24-2015, 08:16 PM
Simplest explanation? The 220,000 KM circumference was retconned. The given surface area should be more valid because it specifically references the exact size of the Earth in context. I don't remember how long it was between the mountain throwing feat and the current chapter, but I doubt that Earth grew 20 times its S.A. within that short period of time. Unless the closer you get to the Solar eclipse, the expansion rate grows exponentially.

So either way, take whatever is the highest.

X
05-24-2015, 08:19 PM
Why does actual measurements really measure though? It's a big planet.

Y
05-24-2015, 08:20 PM
Why does actual measurements really measure though? It's a big planet.

Scaling.

Kane
05-24-2015, 08:22 PM
It does say the planet is constantly growing :maybe


It wasn't retconned, it just grew.

Ichiryuu
05-24-2015, 08:25 PM
I hope we'll get more information in the manga, because I'd like to get confirmation on this stuff.

If you were to show the comparison between Earth and the Toriko Planet and other things in an image (going by the 220,000KM circumference) it would look like this:

http://oi60.tinypic.com/21ed8x0.jpg

http://oi57.tinypic.com/14met1i.jpg

It's hard to imagine something much bigger than Jupiter, it would be frecking gigantic going by the second statement.

Though a bit farfetched and not thinking it's true, I do like the Theory that the Planet expands at an extremely fast rate when it gets closer to solar eclipse.

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It does say the planet is constantly growing :maybe


It wasn't retconned, it just grew.

These 2 statements were made at the beginning of an arc and at the end of an arc, which lasted a few days or so, I think it was a weeks time.

Kane
05-24-2015, 08:27 PM
I hope we'll get more information in the manga, because I'd like to get confirmation on this stuff.

If you were to show the comparison between Earth and the Toriko Planet and other things in an image (going by the 220,000KM circumference) it would look like this:

http://oi60.tinypic.com/21ed8x0.jpg

http://oi57.tinypic.com/14met1i.jpg

It's hard to imagine something much bigger than Jupiter, it would be frecking gigantic going by the second statement.

Though a bit farfetched and not thinking it's true, I do like the Theory that the Planet expands at an extremely fast rate when it gets closer to solar eclipse.

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These 2 statements were made at the beginning of an arc and at the end of an arc, which lasted a few days or so, I think it was a weeks time.

Then it was retconned.

Lmao he couldn't plan out a couple months ahead?

Rax
05-24-2015, 09:06 PM
I thought the 220,000km thing was referring to our planet IRL

Ichiryuu
05-24-2015, 11:36 PM
I thought the 220,000km thing was referring to our planet IRL

Our real planets circumference is around 40,000 km

Sin
05-24-2015, 11:39 PM
i dont actually think that toriko earth started out as our earth or at least the size of our earth.
i think it simply shows how big the planet actually was in the beginning, dont really see it retconning the 220,000km circumference

Ichiryuu
05-24-2015, 11:52 PM
We've got hints that it's quite like our planet though, continents in Human World looking the same as our continents, the spelling of Pangaea in Acacia's full course, there being humans doing human things and quite a lot of other things, now I'm not ruling out the possibility of Toriko planet not originally being earth, but I feel like it is a likely possibility that it is.

Brohan
05-25-2015, 12:05 AM
It's best to go by what was stated in order of importance.

The 600 or whatever times the size of earth thing was given in exposition that was key to the manga's plot.

The other statement, not so much.

Ichiryuu
05-25-2015, 12:07 AM
Toriko planet having 1/20th surface area of the sun and 5x Jupiters. The debates are going to be heavy :whew

Huo Yuhao
05-25-2015, 12:09 AM
Just tell me how many Earth can fit in the TorikoPlanet.

:cat

Brohan
05-25-2015, 12:09 AM
A lot.

Ichiryuu
05-25-2015, 12:14 AM
A lot.

Can you calculate the circumference of Toriko's planet with the surface area I've given it above? If so, I can show him how big it is.

Huo Yuhao
05-25-2015, 12:14 AM
A lot.
Give a rough estimate.

Kane
05-25-2015, 12:19 AM
Can you calculate the circumference of Toriko's planet with the surface area I've given it above? If so, I can show him how big it is.

Show who? :maybe

Ichiryuu
05-25-2015, 12:23 AM
Show who? :maybe

Everyone, I like to show it off. Are you talking about something different? :maybe

Great Potato
05-25-2015, 01:43 AM
Narrator textboxes should be considered more credible than character statements, so if it had to pick I'd take that over Kaka's statement.

Numinous One
05-25-2015, 03:29 AM
Neither statement needs be wrong really.
It would just mean if it's current size is 659 times larger than it was originally, then it would have begun as a rather small planetoid.

Ichiryuu
05-25-2015, 10:12 AM
Neither statement needs be wrong really.
It would just mean if it's current size is 659 times larger than it was originally, then it would have begun as a rather small planetoid.

We know, but we are just assuming that the planet might have originally been our real "earth" or something. Doesn't mean it's true, but it could be likely.

Maki
05-25-2015, 10:20 AM
Can you calculate the circumference of Toriko's planet with the surface area I've given it above? If so, I can show him how big it is.

https://www.wolframalpha.com

just type in something like "circumference of a sphere with a surface area of ..."

Conjunctivitis
05-25-2015, 11:03 AM
Give a rough estimate.

Like, more than two.

Brohan
05-25-2015, 05:58 PM
Neither statement needs be wrong really.
It would just mean if it's current size is 659 times larger than it was originally, then it would have begun as a rather small planetoid.
That's impossible, since we know Human world's center used to be earth.

Ichiryuu
05-25-2015, 10:17 PM
That's impossible, since we know Human world's center used to be earth.

I thought it was just likely that it was, is there definite proof that it is?

Brohan
05-26-2015, 12:24 AM
I thought it was just likely that it was, is there definite proof that it is?

Central Human World is the only part of the world that doesn't have the Gourmet Cell Meteor in it's bedrock. Central Human world also happens to have our url continents and oceans.

Ichiryuu
05-27-2015, 07:44 PM
So I just read on another forum that apparently VIZ translated that the Volume is 659x more than it originally was rather than the surface area. Same person said that actually fits in with the 220,000KM and that it would make the toriko planet half of Jupiters volume.

So I took the numbers of earth and jupiter and got Toriko's number by multiplying earths volume x659.

Earth's Volume = |1,083,206,916,846 km3 (13 digits)
Jupiter's Volume = |1,431,281,810,739,360 km3 (16 digits)
Toriko's Volume = |713,833,358,201,514 km3 (15 digits)

Which means Toriko's planet almost has exactly half the volume Jupiter has.

I didn't see a confirmation from that person or some link, but it would make sense.

Maki
05-27-2015, 08:14 PM
http://puu.sh/i2OAc/5f586bad9c.png

Ichiryuu
05-27-2015, 08:28 PM
That doesn't seem right unless the original 220,000KM was also a mistranslation and was supposed to be miles which does seem to get pretty damn close(216,455), or they screwed up in the manga later or something.

Maki
05-27-2015, 08:36 PM
mistranslation of miles seems most likely

Ichiryuu
05-27-2015, 08:46 PM
Sure would be nice if all things fall into place and get translated like this so we'll have our official size.

Ichiryuu
05-28-2015, 09:57 AM
If our recent calculations and assumptions are correct and Toriko's planet circumference is actually 220,000 miles instead of km the comparison to moon/earth/jupiter would look like this:

http://oi60.tinypic.com/qye1l3.jpg

Goku

Ichiryuu
06-13-2015, 02:15 PM
Updated the opening post with what we(or at least I, through findings) currently put Toriko's planet at.

black star
06-13-2015, 02:54 PM
I have seen 659 time scan.
There are two questions?
1. Was it referring to Surface Area? If yes then Toriko's planet is above 16k times our earth. Which I don't buy it
2. Was it simply referring to volume? Then Toriko's planet has 75.8 times earth's surface area.
And by calculation Toriko's planet has Radius of 55333.782 km.

If we want it to be realistic then I don't think their Planet was of same size as our earth at beginning caused it is simply impossible to have such massive heavenly body at such position without increasing its revolving speed. By the scan it was the size that was increasing not revolving speed.

Ichiryuu
06-13-2015, 02:58 PM
1.They say the viz said it was 659x volume which would be the current calculation I have.
if it meant surface area, Toriko Planet would be larger than Jupiter and The Toriko Planet would be to our sun, what our moon is to our earth in circumference size.

2. If what they say is true, only 659x volume is mentioned.

We don't need to be realistic since this is a fiction story, not to mention Toriko of all things.

black star
06-13-2015, 03:07 PM
Earth's circumference is 40264.72 km
And circumference of Toriko's planet is 349709.502 km which is around 8 times our earth. It is all assuming the volume Toriko's planet is 659 times our earth.

But if the circumference of Toriko's planet is 220,000 km then it is about 5.5 times.

I have some doubts, about part having Gourmet cell, does that mean the increases aren't uniform in their Planet. If yes then every calculation that we have calculated upto now will be wrong

Ichiryuu
06-13-2015, 03:09 PM
Earth's circumference is 40264.72 km
And circumference of Toriko's planet is 349709.502 km which is around 8 times our earth. It is all assuming the volume Toriko's planet is 659 times our earth.

But if the circumference of Toriko's planet is 220,000 km then it is about 5.5 times.

I have some doubts, about part having Gourmet cell, does that mean the increases aren't uniform in their Planet. If yes then every calculation that we have calculated upto now will be wrong

All the numbers are in the opening post under the red letters.

Aegon Targaryen
09-25-2015, 03:55 PM
Maybe 659 times as voluminous as the Earth...

Ichiryuu
09-25-2015, 07:33 PM
Maybe 659 times as voluminous as the Earth...

That's whats put in the OP, Are you complaining about something?

Ichiryuu
01-08-2016, 10:59 PM
Updated the thread, Toriko planet is downgraded back to 220,000KM circumference, bottom line is now the accurate thing in the opening post.

Akira
01-08-2016, 11:23 PM
Updated the thread, Toriko planet is downgraded back to 220,000KM circumference, bottom line is now the accurate thing in the opening post.
why downgraded now ???

Ichiryuu
01-08-2016, 11:25 PM
why downgraded now ???

Because the Mothersnake is as long as the circumference of the planet which is 220,000KM, it was 220,000KM before, but it was retconned by a statement from Kaka, but that's reversed now in the latest chapter.

Akira
01-08-2016, 11:30 PM
Because the Mothersnake is as long as the circumference of the planet which is 220,000KM, it was 220,000KM before, but it was retconned by a statement from Kaka, but that's reversed now in the latest chapter.
ok

Numinous One
01-08-2016, 11:37 PM
I don't see how it was retconned at all.

The 216000 miles was an assumption.
It wasn't anything but 220000km, and that's just been reinforced.

Ichiryuu
01-08-2016, 11:41 PM
I don't see how it was retconned at all.

The 216000 miles was an assumption.
It wasn't anything but 220000km, and that's just been reinforced.

It seemed very likely at the time because of Kaka's statement, it wasn't merely an assumption. Nonetheless it's back to 220,000KM so I don't see the problem.