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W
05-12-2015, 03:36 AM
http://i.imgur.com/4iRYAIg.png

Name: Ban, epithet "Undead" and (when he was younger) "Bandit"
Origin: Nanatsu no Taizai
Gender: Male
Classification: Human, Fox's Sin of Greed, Member of Seven Deadly Sins
Age: Unknown
Powers and Abilities: Super strength, speed, durability , agility, stamina, immortality , regeneration "snatch" physical object (gaining some form of physical control over them), can rob a victim of his physical ability and add it to his own
Weaknesses: Doesn't always take things seriously
Destructive Capacity: City level | Small Island level (Has half of Galan's strength | Island level (Has bits of strength from multiple commandments in him )
Range: Average human melee range, a few hundred meters with Snatch
Speed: Massively Hypersonic | Massively Hypersonic + | Massively Hypersonic +
Durability: City level | Small Island | Island level

Source: http://outskirtsbattledomewiki.com/index.php/8-character-profiles/271-character-profile-ban


Key: Base | Hunter Fest (Galan) | Hunter Fest ( Multiple Commandments)

Rax
05-12-2015, 03:58 AM
Disagreeing on the speed and the durability a big bunch.

Even maybe the DC :hmm

W
05-12-2015, 05:18 AM
Yeah because Ban isn't comparable to any of the other sins :zaru

Rax
05-12-2015, 05:21 AM
I don't believe anyone in NNT is MHS at this point.

Also Ban gets fucked up by most attacks. It should say like, MCB level but city level through regen.

He's also not city level at first. His entire power set is via stealing bits of his enemies stats over time.

Kane
05-12-2015, 11:12 AM
Agree for the most part, but where are you getting MHS from?

And you should add a picture to make the profile look nice :maybe

Maki
05-12-2015, 03:48 PM
Yeah, I actually agree with rax on his durability. Like, hendricksen blew his top half off, but he was just knocking around everyone else.

W
05-12-2015, 11:18 PM
Yeah, I actually agree with rax on his durability. Like, hendricksen blew his top half off, but he was just knocking around everyone else.

When was this again? Which form of Hendy was that.

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I don't believe anyone in NNT is MHS at this point.

Also Ban gets fucked up by most attacks. It should say like, MCB level but city level through regen.

He's also not city level at first. His entire power set is via stealing bits of his enemies stats over time.

Took this from the OBD dumbass, Gil's thunder was MHS. Ban is city level even without snatch he's comparable to other sins.

Maki
05-12-2015, 11:36 PM
When was this again? Which form of Hendy was that.

http://www.mangareader.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/93/18

right after he injected himself with grey demon blood

Rax
06-18-2015, 12:22 AM
Ban isn't MHS+ at all nor is he city level at the start

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His durability is also not city level. It's piss weak.

Akrona
06-18-2015, 12:24 AM
Ban's attack potency is pretty high, he almost ripped Meliodas' heart out with one attack.

Maki
06-18-2015, 12:26 AM
He killed a Red Demon before he even became a Sin. and most villains up to hendy used red demon power.

Rax
06-18-2015, 12:27 AM
He is not MHS though

Nor is he city level in base. Ban's entire power system is stealing stats over time

His durability is also shit. He gets wrecked by weak attacks and just regenerates.

Alex D. Boss
06-18-2015, 12:29 AM
Ban is not city level.

Akrona
06-18-2015, 12:32 AM
Ban's durability isn't very good, I agree. But I'd say MCB durability sounds fair. Unless you think Ban would get oneshotted by fodder Holy Knights.

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Ban almost oneshotted Meliodas and dislocated Hendy's arm with Snatch, he has city level attack potency at least.

Rax
06-18-2015, 12:32 AM
For his body?

yes


Doesn't mean he'd lose. His entire shit is regeneration + Stamina

Akrona
06-18-2015, 12:34 AM
So Twigo's slashes > Meliodas' casual punches now? :geg

Rax
06-18-2015, 12:38 AM
I never saw feats that said otherwise :33

W
06-18-2015, 12:39 AM
I never saw feats that said otherwise :33
GTFO outta my thread, fucking dumbass.

Akrona
06-18-2015, 12:39 AM
:gilogio

Rax
06-18-2015, 12:50 AM
Scans of Meliodas' plain casual punches being above Twigo's slashes? :smug

Akira
06-18-2015, 08:18 PM
ok with this

R
10-10-2015, 09:52 AM
going from the spoilers his DC probably have to be changed to "small island level" like galans and meliodas

speed MHS+ is fine

im proud ban finally begins to dodge :mvp

Numinous One
10-10-2015, 11:11 AM
going from the spoilers his DC probably have to be changed to "small island level" like galans and meliodas

speed MHS+ is fine

im proud ban finally begins to dodge :mvp

Not a chance.

Ban hasn't had any power ups at all, and your putting him in the same league as rusty full power Mel?
When a depowered demon mark Mel was capabling of beating Ban rather easily?
Definitely not small island level.
Nor should he get the speed unless he demonstrates that he is faster than Galan. He got a few hits in but did no noticeable damage.

This is honestly a common problem amongst most shonen fans.
They need to stop jumping the gun.

Wait a few more days until the chapters come out.


You should also add a new category.

Ban's hobbies: Getting Shrekt.

R
10-10-2015, 11:21 AM
Not a chance.

Ban hasn't had any power ups at all, and your putting him in the same league as rusty full power Mel?
When a depowered demon mark Mel was capabling of beating Ban rather easily?
Definitely not small island level.
Nor should he get the speed unless he demonstrates that he is faster than Galan. He got a few hits in but did no noticeable damage.

This is honestly a common problem amongst most shonen fans.
They need to stop jumping the gun.

Wait a few more days until the chapters come out.


You should also add a new category.

Ban's hobbies: Getting Shrekt.

well ban obviously improved his physical hunt to some sort of instant working stuff, which allows him to steal a large chunk of powers immediately) its not a physical improvement but it still is some form of upgrade which should not be overlooked

when i go via scaling from galan and i see ban not only knocking him back but sending him face down to the ground this would allow an improvement without a doubt.

i dont see any reason why "a common problem among fans" is brought in, when a chapter clearly indicates how evenly or even more powerful a character fights against someone who took meliodas assault and is scaled to small island level durability.

sure i wait, but i like to point out the possibility for an upgrade instead of asking the OP to edit the profile out of the blue to make people wonder

getting shrekt and always coming back is a murderous psychological warfare if you look at it realistic. though ban tends to overdo it sometimes

Numinous One
10-10-2015, 11:33 AM
well ban obviously improved his physical hunt to some sort of instant working stuff, which allows him to steal a large chunk of powers immediately) its not a physical improvement but it still is some form of upgrade which should not be overlooked

when i go via scaling from galan and i see ban not only knocking him back but sending him face down to the ground this would allow an improvement without a doubt.

i dont see any reason why "a common problem among fans" is brought in, when a chapter clearly indicates how evenly or even more powerful a character fights against someone who took meliodas assault and is scaled to small island level durability.

sure i wait, but i like to point out the possibility for an upgrade instead of asking the OP to edit the profile out of the blue to make people wonder

getting shrekt and always coming back is a murderous psychological warfare if you look at it realistic. though ban tends to overdo it sometimes

I'll admit I haven't even seen the reasoning for the small ialand level punches.

I'm gonna assume it's based on Fraudrin surviving the blast?
That technically doesn't fall under durability as it is used in these circumstances.
That was more along the lines of getting fucked up to the point of near death and being unable to recover over years despite impressive demonic regeneration.

As opposed to taking that hit and keep going.
Because that's generally what Durability is referencing.

R
10-10-2015, 11:39 AM
I'll admit I haven't even seen the reasoning for the small ialand level punches.

I'm gonna assume it's based on Fraudrin surviving the blast?
That technically doesn't fall under durability as it is used in these circumstances.
That was more along the lines of getting fucked up to the point of near death and being unable to recover over years despite impressive demonic regeneration.

As opposed to taking that hit and keep going.
Because that's generally what Durability is referencing.

it was based of galan taking meliodas assault and wanting to continue the fight afterwards. fraudrin was not used to scale anything off i guess since he was out of bounds for...well, years.

R
10-10-2015, 11:54 AM
just got the first translation

ban having greater power than galan confirmed. as well as using an improved part of physical hunt like i suspected

Numinous One
10-10-2015, 11:56 AM
it was based of galan taking meliodas assault and wanting to continue the fight afterwards. fraudrin was not used to scale anything off i guess since he was out of bounds for...well, years.

Where is the basis for Mel's punches being at that level coming from then?
A bloodlusted uncontrolled blast is where that energy yield is coming from, so why would casual punches be even close to that?

Casual punches from a Mel who isn't back at that level I should probably add.

R
10-10-2015, 12:04 PM
Where is the basis for Mel's punches being at that level coming from then?
A bloodlusted uncontrolled blast is where that energy yield is coming from, so why would casual punches be even close to that?

Casual punches from a Mel who isn't back at that level I should probably add.

power scaling. justsomedude made a pretty big post about it. pre-weapon pre-ST pre-release meliodas hill slice, sword meliodas pre-ST pre-release attack, ST meliodas pre-release albion cutting, galan tanking ST meliodas pre-release meliodas without damage, released meliodas w/o ST punching galan, galan taking the hits and wanting to continue

instead of repeating i link you to his post

second

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Now, let's begin with a feat from Mel: Casually splitting a large hill/small mountain from a distance using the air pressure and a twig
http://img.mangastream.to/manga/nanatsu-no-taizai/051/Nanatsu_no_Taizai51_27_RHN.pnghttp://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124715/4080183-7614167009-71782.png
Now, with the broken blade, he has potential to do more damage than that (not by that much, probably. So it would still be small mountain).

With Liz's sword, though we've never had the chance to witness it, he can more than most likley split that of a standardly sized mountain, as Liz's blade is obviously much sharper and stronger than that of a twig.

Now, the Albion. The Albion completely broke Liz's blade. It also took its own blast to the face with nothing more than burn marks, and said blast dwarfed it (The Albion itself is mountain sized, the blast 4 it's height)
http://lh5.ggpht.com/-knQDbr54gfM/VOTvPXX_9XI/AAAAAAAAH9E/R6Pay_pef5U/031_thumb%25255B3%25255D.png?imgmax=800
http://i3-img7.mangachapter.me/14879/26444382/14281613_14879.jpg
http://mangafreak.co/scans/i5/img/nanatsu-no-taizai/115/nanatsu-no-taizai-5507893.jpg
http://mangafreak.co/scans/i5/img/nanatsu-no-taizai/115/nanatsu-no-taizai-5507893.jpg
http://mangafreak.co/scans/i3/img/nanatsu-no-taizai/115/nanatsu-no-taizai-5507895.jpg
It wasn't until Mel recieves Lostvayne that Mel could do damage. Lostvayne allowed Mel to slice the Albion 5 times before anyone else could see, and it was 5 clean slices, as if he was cutting butter.
http://mangafreak.co/scans/i9/img/nanatsu-no-taizai/116/nanatsu-no-taizai-5525461.jpg
http://mangafreak.co/scans/i9/img/nanatsu-no-taizai/116/nanatsu-no-taizai-5525463.jpg
This proves that Lostvayne is far stronger and sharper than that of Liz's sword. And with the description of how Sacred Treasures work, and how much the Albion could take, it isn't at all far fetched to say that Mel's slashes are multi-mountain.

Now, for Galan. Galan was completely toying with the sins, fighting them as if it was a father play-wrestling with his child. Galan seems to be cocky, so it's not unreasonable to call him a jobber.
Now, Galan completely no-sold Mel's full power slash to the neck with nothing but a push back. Not to mention, he can casually counter Diane's swing with nothing more than a simple kick (That's a strength feat, not durability). Diane's Geokinesis can lift mountains into the air and create mountain (may be small mountains) earth spears. And as evidenced by her gaiden, Geokinesis requires strength. To think that he could easily knock her back provides evidence of his AP being massively above hers.
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/images/c/c2/Meliodas_strike_Galan.png/revision/latest?cb=20150412224436
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/images/9/9d/Diane_attacking_Galan.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/320?cb=20150412225008http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/images/7/79/Galan_knock_Diane_over.png/revision/latest?cb=20150412225046



and after mel regained his strenght and defeated galan he went up to continue the fight - the newest chapter made it clear that with his magic power restored the fight would not be so one-sided as the initial take down

Numinous One
10-10-2015, 12:29 PM
Alright, big post, fairly reasonable for the most part.
Couple thing I wanna point out.
The twig thing is not a mountain level feat.
Not even close.
The Albions blast would only affect things within its radius, as evidenced by the lack of collateral when it exploded.
Meaning it would have an AOE of a couple hundred metres, but there was no shockwave or evidence of greater devastation.
You can't really assign a level to that blast aside from calculating how much damage a fireball of that size would cause. Followed by taking into account the complete lack of collteral.

Next up is that comment about Diane.
Reflecting an average physical attack is one thing, but it can in no way be attributed to her most powerful, named, showing to date.
That's like saying every punch by Goku is planet level because he can use a Kamehameha.
Which is frankly nonsense.

R
10-10-2015, 01:11 PM
i just copied it here. i dont support everything in it but...im lazy right now and dont intend to scale everything myself and give detailed reasoning. maybe later. in general he got the right approach.

and even a casual swing from diane is able to cleave the same mountain she later uplifted with her MC



http://a.mangatown.com/store/manga/11925/049.0/compressed/u005.jpg?v=51381070522

http://a.mangatown.com/store/manga/11925/049.0/compressed/u006.jpg?v=51381070522



so while its not necessary a MC feat it has still enough brute force to cleave mountains, the ground and whatnot. galan reflecting her full powered strike not only once but twice



http://a.mangatown.com/store/manga/11925/127.0/compressed/bthe_seven_deadly_sins127_012_rhn.jpg?v=5143375292 2

http://a.mangatown.com/store/manga/11925/127.0/compressed/bthe_seven_deadly_sins127_013_rhn.jpg?v=5143375292 2



and meliodas overcame that sort of defense with "light punches"

Akira
10-10-2015, 02:16 PM
ban is a monster ! :hhh

W
10-10-2015, 04:12 PM
I'll update later

Akrona
10-10-2015, 05:06 PM
I don't think Ban's stats changed at all, he just used Physical Hunt to the best of his ability so that he could temporarily match Galan. At least this proves the ability works much more quickly when he wants it to though.

Skydragon
10-10-2015, 07:24 PM
I don't think Ban's stats changed at all, he just used Physical Hunt to the best of his ability so that he could temporarily match Galan. At least this proves the ability works much more quickly when he wants it to though.

i agree we should just add the abiltiy to it

Akrona
10-11-2015, 12:32 AM
With Hunter Fest, he could temporarily fight TC level opponents. But that's just temporary. Without it, his stats are the same as before.

Akira
10-11-2015, 01:24 AM
With Hunter Fest, he could temporarily fight TC level opponents. But that's just temporary. Without it, his stats are the same as before.
He doesn't need improve in his physical stats since he can steal it at will !

Sayoko
10-11-2015, 08:28 AM
Yeah, his stats should be the same as before. But we could add the fact that he can steal power from those who are much stronger than him.

R
11-21-2015, 06:38 PM
W

please add a new category under the profile describition

add there:

notable UBD victories:

ban vs natsu: http://www.millenniumforums.com/showthread.php?33776-Ban-vs-natsu&highlight=natsu

notable UBD losses:

its the new approach we go for the ubd profiles and references for battles !

Akrona
11-21-2015, 07:21 PM
That's kind of exactly like Vs Battles and OBD... :distracted

R
11-21-2015, 07:23 PM
That's kind of exactly like Vs Battles and OBD... :distracted

you can add the same for galans profile

vs natsu. i find the link

Akrona
11-21-2015, 07:30 PM
you can add the same for galans profile

vs natsu. i find the link
I mean the victory and loss thing, it would make the UBD Profiles almost exactly the same as Vs Battles and OBD in format.

Rax
11-21-2015, 08:02 PM
Natsu has fucking higher feats than Galan


Jesus christ

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Ban has never regenerated from anything Natsu can put out causally.


Stop.

R
11-21-2015, 08:09 PM
I mean the victory and loss thing, it would make the UBD Profiles almost exactly the same as Vs Battles and OBD in format.

well its different since we use our own made battles as reference and link to our polls and results

not too bad i guess

Rax
11-21-2015, 08:38 PM
Natsu > Ban


Stop.

Akira
11-22-2015, 12:00 AM
Natsu > Ban


Stop.
lol nope
ban destroy natsu

Rax
11-22-2015, 02:00 AM
No he can't.

He couldn't even kill half power base Galan whilst having a boost off of his shit

Natsu has better feats than Galan

black star
11-22-2015, 02:29 AM
Speed, durability and DC are all wrongs.

Akira
11-22-2015, 02:32 AM
No he can't.

He couldn't even kill half power base Galan whilst having a boost off of his shit

Natsu has better feats than Galan
lol nope
also : http://www.millenniumforums.com/showthread.php?33776-Ban-vs-natsu&highlight=natsu
in your face

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Speed, durability and DC are all wrongs.
speed are correct, he can get even more with snatch
durability, he is town level ( tank meliodas punch ) ( also he don't need dura he is immortal )
DC, he get through powerscaling

Rax
11-22-2015, 02:36 AM
Natsu over posted Iku

Who has better feats than Galan

Akira
11-22-2015, 02:38 AM
Natsu over posted Iku

Who has better feats than Galan
the poll get the consensus of Iku being city level + / small mountain
for galan, he is multi mountain level
he get upgrade through OBD aswell
take that in your face and stay mad

Rax
11-22-2015, 02:47 AM
Galan has zero feats that out him at multi-mountain level.


Iku does.

Akira
11-22-2015, 02:55 AM
Galan has zero feats that out him at multi-mountain level.


Iku does.
destroying two mountains far away doesn't make you muti mountain ? Lol
also his poll say otherwise
Iku is shit comparing to galan, he will get one shoted by him
don't force me to make a thread

Numinous One
11-22-2015, 02:57 AM
destroying two mountains far away doesn't make you muti mountain ? Lol
also his poll say otherwise
Iku is shit comparing to galan, he will get one shoted by him
don't force me to make a thread

According to the calc it makes the shockwave 45Kt.

And they were hills.
And he cut through part of them near the top.
Nowhere close to destroying the volume of a mountain.

You need a better feat to claim multimountain.

Akira
11-22-2015, 03:01 AM
According to the calc it makes the shockwave 45Kt.

And they were hills.
And he cut through part of them near the top.
Nowhere close to destroying the volume of a mountain.

You need a better feat to claim multimountain.
lol this panel say otherwise : http://www.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/149/19
lol at being hill, you vote at least at mountain level if my memory is correct so stop your double standart
he destroy a large volume as you can see in the last scan of the feat
check also his profiles on the OBD

Rax
11-22-2015, 03:07 AM
Ikusatsunagi cut two mountains AND lots of rock before and after them


Still not sure how you think Iku is only city level when his feat is bigger and better

Reality
11-22-2015, 03:08 AM
Speed, durability and DC are all wrongs.
I second this.

Akira
11-22-2015, 03:09 AM
Ikusatsunagi cut two mountains AND lots of rock before and after them


Still not sure how you think Iku is only city level when his feat is bigger and better
so why his poll say otherwise ?
you are the only one who say that
why I should take you seriously ?

Rax
11-22-2015, 03:12 AM
Because of down players


You're literally saying his feat DC is smaller even though his feat was bigger


Which makes no sense at all

Numinous One
11-22-2015, 03:12 AM
lol this panel say otherwise : http://www.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/149/19
lol at being hill, you vote at least at mountain level if my memory is correct so stop your double standart
he destroy a large volume as you can see in the last scan of the feat
check also his profiles on the OBD



Based on size alone, those are hills. Simple as that.
http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=31160
In the calc they are also referred to as hills, because they are simply not big enough to be mountains.

That last scan shows decapitated hills with individual trees clearly visible.

Yes, I believe he is at least mountain from simple powerscaling.
Not because he has any feats at that level.

Skydragon
11-22-2015, 03:13 AM
Based on size alone, those are hills. Simple as that.
http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=31160
In the calc they are also referred to as hills, because they are simply not big enough to be mountains.

Yes, I believe he is at least mountain from simple powerscaling.
Not because he has any feats at that level.

just wondering do you think escanor stopped most of the power?


also yeah somethings on this need to be changed

Rax
11-22-2015, 03:16 AM
Escanor stopping it doesn't change anything, the force was still there and still was exerted.

Meanwhile Iku's mountains were as wide as a nearby city and had hundreds of meters wide gaps made by his slash

Akira
11-22-2015, 03:18 AM
Based on size alone, those are hills. Simple as that.
http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=31160
In the calc they are also referred to as hills, because they are simply not big enough to be mountains.

That last scan shows decapitated hills with individual trees clearly visible.

Yes, I believe he is at least mountain from simple powerscaling.
Not because he has any feats at that level.
Yes in that calc, which is wrong since there is a town below it
from powerscaling, he is at least small island level from monspiet feat
http://outskirtsbattledomewiki.com/index.php/fictions/2349-character-profile-galan

Numinous One
11-22-2015, 03:21 AM
just wondering do you think escanor stopped most of the power?


also yeah somethings on this need to be changed

It's possible Escanor stopped a fair bit of it.
However part of the shockwave clearly made it past him, you'll notice how it wasn't a full 360degree shockwave, which implies he did stop some, but the shockwaves that were created before hitting him made it past.
If you can follow what I'm saying anyway.

The point I've been making is that the feat simply isn't multi-mountain level.
The numbers disagree and them being hills also disagrees.

Rax
11-22-2015, 03:21 AM
Holy shit

The town is irrelevant and the fucking bleed energy from Monspiet DOES NOT SCALE OVER

Numinous One
11-22-2015, 03:23 AM
Yes in that calc, which is wrong since there is a town below it
from powerscaling, he is at least small island level from monspiet feat
http://outskirtsbattledomewiki.com/index.php/fictions/2349-character-profile-galan

Town is in the background, hill is in the foreground.
Perspective is a thing.

If you have an issue with the scaling method used, then voice your concerns about it so it can be discussed.

Akira
11-22-2015, 03:25 AM
Holy shit

The town is irrelevant and the fucking bleed energy from Monspiet DOES NOT SCALE OVER
lol stay mad, OBD already accept it

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Town is in the background, hill is in the foreground.
Perspective is a thing.
town is below to it

Rax
11-22-2015, 03:25 AM
So Atlas Flame's bleed energy scales over


Continent level top tiers I guess.

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lol stay mad, OBD already accept it

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town is below to it

So you know what a foreground is?

Akira
11-22-2015, 03:26 AM
Town is in the background, hill is in the foreground.
Perspective is a thing.

If you have an issue with the scaling method used, then voice your concerns about it so it can be discussed.
I don't need since his profiles is already upgraded lol

Rax
11-22-2015, 03:27 AM
I like how a town makes it a mountain but a city doesn't make Iku's


Real nice double standards, dude

Akira
11-22-2015, 03:27 AM
So Atlas Flame's bleed energy scales over


Continent level top tiers I guess.

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So you know what a foreground is?
that don't change anything lol, on the contrary

Numinous One
11-22-2015, 03:27 AM
How big do you think that hill is then, Akira?

Let's work through it.

Numinous One
11-22-2015, 03:29 AM
that don't change anything lol, on the contrary

Yes.
It does.

Things in the foreground appear larger because they are closer.

Things in the background appear smaller becauee they are further away.

Akira
11-22-2015, 03:29 AM
How big do you think that hill is then, Akira?

Let's work through it.
the problem is I don't agree of calling that " a hill " lol
Otherwise it will have a big inconsistency of his power which character below to him ( like diane ) show already feat at mountain level

Skydragon
11-22-2015, 03:29 AM
It's possible Escanor stopped a fair bit of it.
However part of the shockwave clearly made it past him, you'll notice how it wasn't a full 360degree shockwave, which implies he did stop some, but the shockwaves that were created before hitting him made it past.
If you can follow what I'm saying anyway.

The point I've been making is that the feat simply isn't multi-mountain level.
The numbers disagree and them being hills also disagrees.

i fallow yeah i was wondering what you though about it because i believe it would have been a lot stronger if escanor did not stop it

and yeah i know its not multi mountain all good thank you for answering me

Akira
11-22-2015, 03:30 AM
Yes.
It does.

Things in the foreground appear larger because they are closer.

Things in the background appear smaller becauee they are further away.
no it doesn't since the town doesn't seems to be far away lol

Numinous One
11-22-2015, 03:33 AM
the problem is I don't agree of calling that " a hill " lol
Otherwise it will have a big inconsistency of his power which character below to him ( like diane ) show already feat at mountain level

Well I'm not gonna call it something it's not.

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no it doesn't since the town doesn't seems to be far away lol

Kinda is, it's behind the hill after all.

Just did a very quick, very generous scaling based on the trees ontop of the hill.

By generous I mean using a tree size over twice as much as the average and it only came out at like 300m.

Back in reality however, using a normal tree height, with variations it'd be between 100-200m tall.

As I said, simply not big enough to be a mountain.

If you disagree, then disprove it with evidence.

But as I said, that's me being generous.

Iwan scaled it to be roughly around the 100m mark.
And they put far more time and effort into it than I did.

Rax
11-22-2015, 03:35 AM
Galan's we're mountains cause of a town

The city next to Iku's must be giant mountains :hhh

Akira
11-22-2015, 03:36 AM
Well I'm not gonna call it something it's not.

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Kinda is, it's behind the hill after all.
I told you, this isn't a hill
you know quite a large hill and broad to cover an entire town in the background ?
I also have my powerscaling argument which make him at small island level

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Galan's we're mountains cause of a town

The city next to Iku's must be giant mountains :hhh
this is not a city lol

Rax
11-22-2015, 03:37 AM
It's got city in its name

Akira
11-22-2015, 03:38 AM
It's got city in its name
population say otherwise
even my town has much more people lol

Rax
11-22-2015, 03:39 AM
30,000 people is a lot of people :sanji

Skydragon
11-22-2015, 03:40 AM
30,000 people is a lot of people :sanji


most city have a lot more then 30k people

Numinous One
11-22-2015, 03:41 AM
We have modern cities with less inhabitants than the one next to Iku.
Population isn't a good argument.

Akira
11-22-2015, 03:43 AM
30,000 people is a lot of people :sanji
do you know the potential people which can lives in town ?
for exemple, my town has around 50 000 people
pretty sure your town has much more than just 30 000 people

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We have modern cities with less inhabitants than the one next to Iku.
Population isn't a good argument.
If you can proof me, why ?
I can reconsider it

Rax
11-22-2015, 03:43 AM
Explain to me why Galan's are mountains next to a town when Iku's is next to a city

The one in Galan's feat was a couple houses

Numinous One
11-22-2015, 03:44 AM
I told you, this isn't a hill
you know quite a large hill and broad to cover an entire town in the background ?
I also have my powerscaling argument which make him at small island level

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this is not a city lol

I do know hills like that.
They pretty much surround my city on the inland side.
I'm willing to wager any amount of money that the city I live in is larger than that town there, and it's still capable of being hidden behind hills like that.

It's all a matter of perspective, which you seem not to understand if we've gotten this far.

Akira
11-22-2015, 03:49 AM
Explain to me why Galan's are mountains next to a town when Iku's is next to a city

The one in Galan's feat was a couple houses
bad comparaison
you think Iku size is the same as mountain, lol
normal that we have only a couple houses, since the mountain cover it in the background also it's common in NNT world to have a lot of town anywhere lol

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I do know hills like that.
They pretty much surround my city on the inland side.
I'm willing to wager any amount of money that the city I live in is larger than that town there, and it's still capable of being hidden behind hills like that.

It's all a matter of perspective, which you seem not to understand if we've gotten this far.
But believe me about my experience that I don't know a hills like that too
my country has a lot of mountains surrounding a several town in africa

Rax
11-22-2015, 03:57 AM
Iku fucking was so tall he was near the cloud layer

Akira
11-22-2015, 03:58 AM
Iku fucking was so tall he was near the cloud layer
lol I can say the same for Albion

Numinous One
11-22-2015, 03:59 AM
bad comparaison
you think Iku size is the same as mountain, lol
normal that we have only a couple houses, since the mountain cover it in the background also it's common in NNT world to have a lot of town anywhere lol

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But believe me about my experience that I don't know a hills like that too
my country has a lot of mountains surrounding a several town in africa

Do you know the difference between a hill and a mountain?
Because we were talking about hills.
Mountains are irrelevant.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_population_density
That list alone has 4 out of 38 cities with a population under 30000. Several more are close to that number.

There are tons of lists you can look through if you like.
The US has some cities like that too, I saw one that didn't even have 7000people.
The UK, IIRC, has three cities with populations under 10000.

Defining a city by it's population isn't a good method.
The difference between a town and city is how dense the population is, not how many people there are.

Rax
11-22-2015, 03:59 AM
Albion was near the cloud layer?

Akira
11-22-2015, 04:09 AM
Do you know the difference between a hill and a mountain?
Because we were talking about hills.
Mountains are irrelevant.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_population_density
That list alone has 4 out of 38 cities with a population under 30000. Several more are close to that number.

There are tons of lists you can look through if you like.
The US has some cities like that too, I saw one that didn't even have 7000people.
The UK, IIRC, has three cities with populations under 10000.

Defining a city by it's population isn't a good method.
The difference between a town and city is how dense the population is, not how many people there are.
the problem is that I consider that as a mountain
by a simple comparaison at where I lives lol
being a hill is retard, the town before it prove it
also everyone know that " wikipedia " are not reliable at all, I can easily make a article myself too
show me a more professional website at that issue and I will concede

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Albion was near the cloud layer?
http://www.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/115/4
http://www.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/115/6

Numinous One
11-22-2015, 04:11 AM
the problem is that I consider that as a mountain
by a simple comparaison at where I lives lol
being a hill is retard, the town before it prove it
also everyone know that " wikipedia " are not reliable at all, I can easily make a article myself too
show me a more professional website at that issue and I will concede

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http://www.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/115/4
http://www.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/115/6

To be frank, I don't care if you consider it a mountain.

Two different methods of scaling depict it to be smaller than the required height for a mountain.

Disprove it with evidence or concede.
Opinions carry no weight.


http://www.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/115/12
Why don't we just scale it from that scan?
It's the best view we get.
All you need is a size for mama hawk / Boar's hat.

Oh, mama hawk has already been scaled.
http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=26255&page=2
In the comments.

10m height.
We get the fat albion at roughly 200m tall from there.
With big skinny one being like 323m tall, after revising Raven's scaling with a more believable tree size.

Those heights also match up nicely with that front page with both the albions on it.

Reality
11-22-2015, 04:12 AM
Albion was not nearly as tall as Iku, he was barley towering over buildings.

Akira
11-22-2015, 04:19 AM
To be frank, I don't care if you consider it a mountain.

Two different methods of scaling depict it to be smaller than the required height for a mountain.

Disprove it with evidence or concede.
Opinions carry no weight.


http://www.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/115/12
Why don't we just scale it from that scan?
It's the best view we get.
All you need is a size for mama hawk / Boar's hat.
same as your opinion which disagree the scaling of galan with monspiet feat
I saw that as a mountain because I don't know any hill which can cover a whole town at the background
geographically, I have not seen it

I dunno how to scale it, I will ask raven to do it
maybe later

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Albion was not nearly as tall as Iku, he was barley towering over buildings.
this scan : http://www.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/115/12

and hawk, the king of liones say otherwise

Numinous One
11-22-2015, 04:28 AM
same as your opinion which disagree the scaling of galan with monspiet feat
I saw that as a mountain because I don't know any hill which can cover a whole town at the background
geographically, I have not seen it

I dunno how to scale it, I will ask raven to do it
maybe later

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this scan : http://www.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/115/12

and hawk, the king of liones say otherwise

If you understood my arguments against that scaling you would know the problem I had was with the efficiency of energy release, and there being no evidence that Galan could output enough energy in one go physically to match what Monspiet can do through magic.

Also I did that scaling quickly, fatty is about 200m tall.

Reality
11-22-2015, 04:29 AM
same as your opinion which disagree the scaling of galan with monspiet feat
I saw that as a mountain because I don't know any hill which can cover a whole town at the background
geographically, I have not seen it

I dunno how to scale it, I will ask raven to do it
maybe later

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this scan : http://www.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/115/12

and hawk, the king of liones say otherwise
Hawk mama is building level which is clearly visible next to Albion. Even King was very much visible next to Slim Albion.
http://i3.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/118/nanatsu-no-taizai-5549369.jpg

Akira
11-22-2015, 04:37 AM
If you understood my arguments against that scaling you would know the problem I had was with the efficiency of energy release, and there being no evidence that Galan could output enough energy in one go physically to match what Monspiet can do through magic.

Also I did that scaling quickly, fatty is about 200m tall.
Again, I argue with you with something comes from the manga itself
Galan PL is 40 000, he is second PL so far from this serie for now
monspiet did that feat casually, again I say casually
get accepted by OBD ( there I believe there has people which can do the calcul like you do )
those people accepted to scale galan with monspiet
conclusion, why should I give you more consideration ?
If it comes that monspiet PL is below 40 000
What you should think ? LOL
How tall is hawk mama ?

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Hawk mama is building level which is clearly visible next to Albion. Even King was very much visible next to Slim Albion.
http://i3.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/118/nanatsu-no-taizai-5549369.jpg
lol http://www.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/118/6
this albion is taller than the sacred tree
hawk mama is not building size
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd4pMykGn9g

Reality
11-22-2015, 04:42 AM
Again, I argue with you with something comes from the manga itself
Galan PL is 40 000, he is second PL so far from this serie for now
monspiet did that feat casually, again I say casually
get accepted by OBD ( there I believe there has people which can do the calcul like you do )
those people accepted to scale galan with monspiet
conclusion, why should I give you more consideration ?
If it comes that monspiet PL is below 40 000
What you should think ? LOL
How tall is hawk mama ?

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lol http://www.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/118/6
this albion is taller than the sacred tree
hawk mama is not building size
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd4pMykGn9g
And King was shown clearly next to the Albion

Hawk mama is carrying a small building on her back, she is large building size, about as tall as Diane who is 10 meters or 30 feet tall.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/images/7/7d/Diane_chatting_with_Hawk_Mama.png/revision/latest?cb=20131230161627

Numinous One
11-22-2015, 04:42 AM
Again, I argue with you with something comes from the manga itself
Galan PL is 40 000, he is second PL so far from this serie for now
monspiet did that feat casually, again I say casually
get accepted by OBD ( there I believe there has people which can do the calcul like you do )
those people accepted to scale galan with monspiet
conclusion, why should I give you more consideration ?
If it comes that monspiet PL is below 40 000
What you should think ? LOL
How tall is hawk mama ?

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lol http://www.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/118/6
this albion is taller than the sacred tree
hawk mama is not building size
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd4pMykGn9g

She's like 10m tall, consistently depicted around the same height as Diane. I edited an earlier post with these in it if you wanted to look.

Akira
11-22-2015, 04:56 AM
She's like 10m tall, consistently depicted around the same height as Diane. I edited an earlier post with these in it if you wanted to look.
don't forget the bar too
it should be higher with the bar

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here you have a very good comparison between mama hawk and albion

http://www.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/115/6

Numinous One
11-22-2015, 06:40 AM
don't forget the bar too
it should be higher with the bar

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here you have a very good comparison between mama hawk and albion

http://www.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/115/6

You only need Mama's size by itself really, adding the bar won't actually change the end result.

Also that link has a very skewed angle on it.
For future reference if you want to get things scaled, try and find views that are roughly level.
Looking at an angle distorts the dimensions.

Akira
11-22-2015, 08:40 AM
You only need Mama's size by itself really, adding the bar won't actually change the end result.

Also that link has a very skewed angle on it.
For future reference if you want to get things scaled, try and find views that are roughly level.
Looking at an angle distorts the dimensions.
so how about this : http://www.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/115/12
hawk mama is litteraly as big as albion eye

Numinous One
11-22-2015, 08:53 AM
so how about this : http://www.mangapanda.com/nanatsu-no-taizai/115/12
hawk mama is litteraly as big as albion eye

That's the one I used, it's the only view where you can see it's full body in comparison to something.

Akira
11-22-2015, 08:57 AM
That's the one I used, it's the only view where you can see it's full body in comparison to something.
so your result ?

Rax
11-22-2015, 09:18 AM
Akira is such a double standard bullshiter


Iku's feat goes longer, wider, and deeper than Galan's and yet he down plays it

Numinous One
11-22-2015, 09:24 AM
so your result ?

Around 200m tall.
Which as I mentioned lines up well with that cover page that had both Albions on the front, with the skinny one a bit taller.
The skinny one was around 320m tall.

Rax
11-22-2015, 01:35 PM
Way smaller than Iku. :rax

black star
11-22-2015, 01:59 PM
Speed is HS+.
Change DC and dura too.

R
11-22-2015, 02:00 PM
Speed is HS+.
Change DC and dura too.

mhs
small city level / city level (with HF) dc
city block level durability (regeneration makes him hard to kill

is what we settle on

Rax
11-22-2015, 02:06 PM
Base Ban is pretty shit.


His stats depend mostly on who he's fighting and his Max power is only half base Galan

R
11-22-2015, 02:08 PM
max power ban without his ST is 17K

"more than half of galans strenght"

and his own strenght

base ban is still impressive enough as a small city level character with snatch hax and mhs speed aside from high level regen

Rax
11-22-2015, 02:10 PM
Where are you getting 17k from?


He's not small city level in base.

black star
11-22-2015, 02:11 PM
mhs
small city level / city level (with HF) dc
city block level durability (regeneration makes him hard to kill

is what we settle on

:smh

R
11-22-2015, 02:13 PM
he is fairy easy small city level in base and without a weapon. scaling from base dungeons feat

claiming otherwise is denying simple logic

black star
11-22-2015, 02:22 PM
Most impressive high end feat speed feat from Meliodas is covering distance between him and Mondpiet which is 300 mile. It was calc to be mach 92.

I don't see how Ban is MHS

R
11-22-2015, 02:24 PM
meliodas has never covered any distance between him and monspiet.

you stated numerous times you dont read nnt.

dont try to use random events which never happened to prove your point

thanks

Rax
11-22-2015, 02:25 PM
Dungeon feat was;


Hollow


Performed by 2 people

Over time

Not the entire place

10x town level is just town level+

R
11-22-2015, 02:27 PM
only the seal around the dungeon was 10x town level which was never even brought in the calculation. but it would boost the result for another kilotons more

divide the result through 2

still small city result in the end individually

black star
11-22-2015, 02:28 PM
his respect thrreads says otherwise. Mel is not even MHS, granted Ban is faster than base Mel, but its not enough to put him at MHS.

Rax
11-22-2015, 02:28 PM
>damage is dine over time and not one attack


:zaru

R
11-22-2015, 02:31 PM
his respect thrreads says otherwise. Mel is not even MHS, granted Ban is faster than base Mel, but its not enough to put him at MHS.

show me the respect thread where meliodas crosses 300 miles to reach monspiet please.

Rax
11-22-2015, 02:36 PM
The Galan calc is also wrong.


You're ignoring consistencies

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>damage is dine over time and not one attack


:zaru

R
11-22-2015, 02:38 PM
i see this leads to nowhere.

my final conclusion:

mhs
small city base / city level HF
city block level dura (regeneration hard to kill etc.)

-> please change the profile accordingly and add the battle victory against natsu

then make a UBD poll

Rax
11-22-2015, 02:39 PM
Nope

black star
11-22-2015, 02:39 PM
show me the respect thread where meliodas crosses 300 miles to reach monspiet please.

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/nanatsu-no-taizai-respect-thread-seven-deadly-sins-1684654/ imight have read it wrong but he is not mhs

Albion
11-22-2015, 02:40 PM
Everyone Sin gets scaled to Gil's Lightning which is legit in this forum, Meliodas' profile was accepted here with Mhs+ is there really a point to show other websites that says differently?

R
11-22-2015, 02:44 PM
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/nanatsu-no-taizai-respect-thread-seven-deadly-sins-1684654/ imight have read it wrong but he is not mhs

i dont find the feat you speak off actually. but since you said you read it wrong it doesnt matter.

however you accepted ban to be faster than mel.

and mel is MHS here in this forum (as well as in many others)

black star
11-22-2015, 02:46 PM
Everyone Sin gets scaled to Gil's Lightning which is legit in this forum, Meliodas' profile was accepted here with Mhs+ is there really a point to show other websites that says differently?

When did UBD voted for Gil's lightning, make a poll if you want.

Not to mention that was a reaction feat.

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i dont find the feat you speak off actually. but since you said you read it wrong it doesnt matter.

however you accepted ban to be faster than mel.

and mel is MHS here in this forum (as well as in many others)

LMAO, misinterpreted my post and trying to claim Mel is MHS :facepalm

Read the speed section of Mel, its not that hard coz its written there.

R
11-22-2015, 02:47 PM
When did UBD voted for Gil's lightning, make a poll if you want.

Not to mention that was a reaction feat.

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LMAO, misinterpreted my post and trying to claim Mel is MHS :facepalm

Read the speed section of Mel, its not that hard coz its written there.

you were the one bringing in wrong information. did you or did you not?

black star
11-22-2015, 02:51 PM
you were the one bringing in wrong information. did you or did you not?

I said I might, about monspiet part, I didn't said I did. Stop being a pussy and read the thread.

Albion
11-22-2015, 02:51 PM
When did UBD voted for Gil's lightning, make a poll if you want.

Not to mention that was a reaction feat.

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LMAO, misinterpreted my post and trying to claim Mel is MHS :facepalm

Read the speed section of Mel, its not that hard coz its written there.
The fact that King's profile was accepted shows that Gil's lightning was accepted, since 1 reason King got put at MHS was by scaling off Mel. The fact that Mel's profile was accepted shows that the Galan feat was accepted. If people really disagree they should make a poll and show why they don't think it's right.

Rax
11-22-2015, 02:54 PM
Galan's feat you did disregards consistency and even uses the wrong time frame

black star
11-22-2015, 02:56 PM
The fact that King's profile was accepted shows that Gil's lightning was accepted, since 1 reason King got put at MHS was by scaling off Mel. The fact that Mel's profile was accepted shows that the Galan feat was accepted. If people really disagree they should make a poll and show why they don't think it's right.

Well many hasn't join that poll including me. I have knowledge on the series now, I realised it was wrong for those profile to be accepted.

And profiles are formed only to give a reference, not to be the supreme rule or law. If you want to prove anything then prove it here. REferencing to profile is for people wh have zero knowledge on the character which is not the case here.

R
11-22-2015, 02:59 PM
I said I might, about monspiet part, I didn't said I did. Stop being a pussy and read the thread.

i do

and when i read things like


Otherwise, I think Ban is the weakest, followed by Escanor

i dont know what to think.

so far i havent seen anyone contesting the speed. only someone saying he is having "an assumption"

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Well many hasn't join that poll including me. I have knowledge on the series now, I realised it was wrong for those profile to be accepted.

And profiles are formed only to give a reference, not to be the supreme rule or law. If you want to prove anything then prove it here. REferencing to profile is for people wh have zero knowledge on the character which is not the case here.

you proved 5 posts ago you have no knowledge on the series. yesterday you even stated in the chat you dont read the series either.

black star
11-22-2015, 03:01 PM
i do

and when i read things like



i dont know what to think.

so far i havent seen anyone contesting the speed. only someone saying he is having "an assumption"

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you proved 5 posts ago you have no knowledge on the series. yesterday you even stated in the chat you dont read the series either.

Why do you think people created profile and respect and appreciation threads for characters? :hmm

R
11-22-2015, 03:04 PM
Why do you think people created profile and respect and appreciation threads for characters? :hmm

"respect" feats are merely a summary of all the characters feats. without giving a subjective opinion on it.

the calcs made of these feats are then where people argue about -> or the character profile

black star
11-22-2015, 03:08 PM
"respect" feats are merely a summary of all the characters feats. without giving a subjective opinion on it.

the calcs made of these feats are then where people argue about -> or the character profile

Calc are reliable only to the particular forum not outside coz its all fanmade. Respect threads gives what he did there with scans which enable readers to decide for their own.

I have seen and read his every feat there and he is not MHS. If you want to porve that much do calc here and we will see.

R
11-22-2015, 03:11 PM
Calc are reliable only to the particular forum not outside coz its all fanmade. Respect threads gives what he did there with scans which enable readers to decide for their own.

I have seen and read his every feat there and he is not MHS. If you want to porve that much do calc here and we will see.

you state things are only reliable in the particular forum - yet give me a link to another forum? twisted logic.

sorry. you have proven many times to be misinformed when it comes to NNT. i doubt you really have the knowledge necessary to give an appropriate answer.

to ease things up

what makes you MHS in terms of lightning? which reaches up to mach 6600

black star
11-22-2015, 03:21 PM
you state things are only reliable in the particular forum - yet give me a link to another forum? twisted logic.

sorry. you have proven many times to be misinformed when it comes to NNT. i doubt you really have the knowledge necessary to give an appropriate answer.

to ease things up

what makes you MHS in terms of lightning? which reaches up to mach 6600

REacting to lightning only give u reaction stats not the speed of the character. Did anyone in the NNt outrun a lightning or blitz someone who has lightning reaction speed without tricking?

R
11-22-2015, 03:26 PM
REacting to lightning only give u reaction stats not the speed of the character. Did anyone in the NNt outrun a lightning or blitz someone who has lightning reaction speed without tricking?

before i answer two questions:

so you accept MHS reaction?

and what you mean with "without tricking"

Albion
11-22-2015, 03:28 PM
Well many hasn't join that poll including me. I have knowledge on the series now, I realised it was wrong for those profile to be accepted.

And profiles are formed only to give a reference, not to be the supreme rule or law. If you want to prove anything then prove it here. REferencing to profile is for people wh have zero knowledge on the character which is not the case here.
I know it's not like that but if it's on the forum and accepted don't waste a bunch of time claiming no no no you have to prove it by making a poll/thread.

black star
11-22-2015, 03:33 PM
before i answer two questions:

so you accept MHS reaction?

and what you mean with "without tricking"

It should be real lightning not magical like in gils's case.

I mean by suprised like Sakura was able to land a hit on Kaguya through sneeking.

R
11-22-2015, 05:00 PM
It should be real lightning not magical like in gils's case.

I mean by suprised like Sakura was able to land a hit on Kaguya through sneeking.

what makes lightning legit

Rax
11-22-2015, 05:02 PM
Coming from a natural lightning cloud.

R
11-22-2015, 05:05 PM
nothing else?

Rax
11-22-2015, 05:07 PM
Shit being explained.

Do you even know how the cloud rule works?:sanji

R
11-22-2015, 05:08 PM
so no other traits except "coming from a natural cloud" yes?

how do you qualify a "natural cloud"?

Rax
11-22-2015, 05:30 PM
A cloud that isn't made via magic

R
11-22-2015, 06:52 PM
what about science?

Rax
11-22-2015, 06:53 PM
Pretty much naturally made from dat :cat

R
11-22-2015, 06:57 PM
so its ok to scientifically create something which then has the traits of a natural cloud

but its not ok to magically create something which then has the traits of a natural cloud?

Rax
11-22-2015, 07:02 PM
Yes

Lightning speed Laxus :datass

R
11-22-2015, 07:03 PM
:mihawk

i just wanted to make sure about your reasoning

Skydragon
11-22-2015, 07:06 PM
aright so where good with lightning speed sin ok also raven you should meantion W and tell him to change stuff

W
11-22-2015, 08:42 PM
what am I changing?

Skydragon
11-22-2015, 08:45 PM
speed down to MHS and DC down to small city level

add hunter feast and with hunter feast put MHS+ speed and city level dc

that should be it

Rax
11-22-2015, 08:46 PM
No they don't.

Not even close.

R
11-22-2015, 09:25 PM
what am I changing?

dc: small city level / city level with hunter fest

dura: city block level (regeneration makes him hard to kill

speed: mhs

add below the profile

notable ubd victories:

ban vs natsu http://www.millenniumforums.com/showthread.php?33776-Ban-vs-natsu

notable ubd losses:

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Rax
11-22-2015, 09:41 PM
>Says City block level and city level with max shit
>Thinks he can beat Natsu

:zaru

R
11-22-2015, 09:44 PM
the victory will look good on bans profile :datass

Rax
11-22-2015, 10:06 PM
Ban has zero feats to show he can compete with current Natsu

Just stop :giogio

Akira
11-23-2015, 01:26 AM
Ban has zero feats to show he can compete with current Natsu

Just stop :giogio
hunter fest and immortality say otherwise

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Way smaller than Iku. :rax
nope lol

Rax
11-23-2015, 01:30 AM
Hunter Fest at most could only take half of Base Galan. It's not enough.

Ban has never regenerated from something like a roar from Natsu.

Yes. Iku's feat is > Any of Galan's

Akira
11-23-2015, 01:36 AM
Hunter Fest at most could only take half of Base Galan. It's not enough.

Ban has never regenerated from something like a roar from Natsu.

Yes. Iku's feat is > Any of Galan's
lol natsu can perform this feat without his stats
try again, ban can regenerate from that easily
he is immortal, it's seem you can't understand that lol

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galan feat is better than Iku

Rax
11-23-2015, 01:38 AM
Hunting Fest goes for physical stats.

So he can still roar just fine as it's purely from his magic and not his physical strength.

So nope :zaru

And no. Immortality and regeneration in Vs threads only go to the highest thing they've came back from, and Ban has never yet taken an attack as powerful as a roar from Current Natsu and returned.

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lol natsu can perform this feat without his stats
try again, ban can regenerate from that easily
he is immortal, it's seem you can't understand that lol

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galan feat is better than Iku


No it isn't :geg

Iku's fucking cut was as wide as he was

WHICH IS HUNDREDS OF METERS WIDE :geg

Akira
11-23-2015, 01:41 AM
Hunting Fest goes for physical stats.

So he can still roar just fine as it's purely from his magic and not his physical strength.

So nope :zaru

And no. Immortality and regeneration in Vs threads only go to the highest thing they've came back from, and Ban has never yet taken an attack as powerful as a roar from Current Natsu and returned.

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No it isn't :geg

Iku's fucking cut was as wide as he was

WHICH IS HUNDREDS OF METERS WIDE :geg
ban get decapitation, incineration during his execution
none of that methods kill him, same of being destroyed to piece of atoms lol
Hunter fest will drain all the stats from natsu, including his stamina
without stamina he can't performs a single roar lol
Critical strike is much more deep and has a better view gap
lol at being hundreds of meters wide

Rax
11-23-2015, 01:47 AM
Doesn't change shit from what I said.

So Ban can regenerate from complete Atomic Destruction? :giogio

Are you fucking retarded?

http://i.imgur.com/BumDsAy.png

Akira
11-23-2015, 01:49 AM
Doesn't change shit from what I said.

So Ban can regenerate from complete Atomic Destruction? :giogio

Are you fucking retarded?

http://i.imgur.com/BumDsAy.png
he get destroyed with hendy attack, he lost his upper part ( all of his vital organs are located there )
get incinerated ( whole body ) during his execution
get decapitated
what do you need ?
he is immortal, natsu has no way to kill him lol, even incineration is useless

Rax
11-23-2015, 01:51 AM
You obviously don't get how regeneration works cross verse.

Guess no one in NNT can kill the CSK :zaru

Natsu just needs more power than anything Ban's ever taken before, which he can

Akira
11-23-2015, 01:54 AM
You obviously don't get how regeneration works cross verse.

Guess no one in NNT can kill the CSK :zaru

Natsu just needs more power than anything Ban's ever taken before, which he can
which he doesn't have lol
he never show such of physical feat lol

Rax
11-23-2015, 01:55 AM
One shotting Bluenote > Anything Ban has ever taken

Akira
11-23-2015, 02:05 AM
One shotting Bluenote > Anything Ban has ever taken
lol, Bluenote is a fodder
Ban destroy galan

Rax
11-23-2015, 02:28 AM
Bluenote fought near level with Gildarts.

So obviously not.

Rax
11-23-2015, 05:31 PM
FDK Roar = NO more Ban

W
11-24-2015, 03:45 AM
I'm not doing the battle thing so this doesn't matter.

Rax
11-24-2015, 03:47 AM
Then why post??:sanji

W
11-24-2015, 03:56 AM
To stop you two from arguing any further about it

Akira
11-24-2015, 04:56 AM
FDK Roar = NO more Ban
lol, it's fail to kill fodder
so nope

Rax
11-30-2015, 02:22 PM
Yeah, Ban isn't beating Natsu. :lmao