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VICE
04-11-2015, 08:29 AM
So, they released all of season 1 into netflix yesterday, and I'm in the process of viewing them.

It will be followed by luke cage, jessica jones and ironfist. all 4 superhero shows will be made into a team-up show the defenders.

Rumors indicate that phil coulson will be the one to assemble them.

Now, onto the show.

It's a netflix show, so it can get more gore and sex than your agents of shield. it's a miniseries, and part of the MCU.

I'm looking forward to watching this.

VICE
04-11-2015, 12:06 PM
Pimp of Pimps; Marimo;

I really think you should see this.

Raystlyn
04-11-2015, 12:28 PM
Oh, colored me intrigued. I'm looking forward to Iron Fist the most. I've never been a fan of DC/Marvel series but I might just start to binge on 'em now.

VICE
04-11-2015, 12:51 PM
Oh, colored me intrigued. I'm looking forward to Iron Fist the most. I've never been a fan of DC/Marvel series but I might just start to binge on 'em now.

I'm on episode 4 of daredevil now and it's... really really good.

and graphic. so I'd say if you want to enjoy the iron fist show, watch this first.

the cast is pretty unknown for me but i like the main cast. best daredevil ever.

Raystlyn
04-11-2015, 12:54 PM
Yeah I think I will. Also I just remembered I haven't paid Netflix. Do you know if it's on popcorn time too? :cat

VICE
04-11-2015, 01:43 PM
Yeah I think I will. Also I just remembered I haven't paid Netflix. Do you know if it's on popcorn time too? :cat

I remember mentioning all 13 episodes are already available? they released all of them in one go.

wink wink torrent them.

X
04-11-2015, 04:53 PM
I don't care for Daredevil, but I think that Netflix creating miniseries for each of these superheros is a smart idea.

VICE
04-11-2015, 05:05 PM
I don't care for Daredevil, but I think that Netflix creating miniseries for each of these superheros is a smart idea.

It is. I can't even describe the wave of awesome the series has been so far.

episode 5 and 6 were like a season 2 finale of arrow

Marimo
04-11-2015, 06:52 PM
I don't have Netflix

VICE
04-11-2015, 06:57 PM
I don't have Netflix
FFS just torrent it. :giogio


It's 10/10

Raystlyn
04-11-2015, 06:58 PM
You have internet

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FFS just torrent it. :giogio


It's 10/10
B-but Vice... that is Illegal!

VICE
04-11-2015, 07:04 PM
You have internet

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B-but Vice... that is Illegal!

No. sharing is illegal. this is just.... being forced to act in duress.

Phoenix
04-11-2015, 07:11 PM
what kind of abilities does daredevil have?

VICE
04-11-2015, 07:16 PM
what kind of abilities does daredevil have?
sometimes i don't get you.

but he's blind, with other senses heightened to superhuman levels. think of a blind badass taking on the streets.

Phoenix
04-11-2015, 07:19 PM
i'll check out the first episode and give my thoughts.

Jeanette
04-11-2015, 08:07 PM
it's good but not great

Bold
04-12-2015, 06:07 PM
I enjoyed the first episode.

VICE
04-12-2015, 06:48 PM
I enjoyed the first season.

very different to shield.

Harard
04-13-2015, 07:23 AM
Best superhero TV series yet.

At least this first season is.

The Gaddess
04-13-2015, 07:25 AM
Best superhero TV series yet.

At least this first season is.
Why aren't you posting pictures?

Harard
04-13-2015, 07:59 AM
http://media.giphy.com/media/10KEZs0WcRerrG/giphy.gif

The Gaddess
04-13-2015, 08:03 AM
http://media.giphy.com/media/10KEZs0WcRerrG/giphy.gif
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay :iria

Live Fast Eat Ass
04-13-2015, 08:39 AM
oh shit, it's Harold.

Rax
04-13-2015, 08:50 PM
This show is amazing. :datass

Bold
04-14-2015, 12:35 PM
Just finished episode 4. Do yourself a favour and watch this show. Fantastic stuff.

VICE
04-14-2015, 12:38 PM
Just finished episode 4. Do yourself a favour and watch this show. Fantastic stuff.
Oh you're in for a good time. episodes 5 and 6 were like the two-part action movie.

Raystlyn
04-14-2015, 12:39 PM
I watched the first two episodes last night, convinced a friend who wasn't fond of the idea at first and he ended up loving it. Skeptical bastard.

It's good stuff, but those ninja maneuvers Matt pulled off seemed really unrealistic, plus his hearing is insane. But then I remembered I was watching a Marvel series :noworries

Great Potato
04-14-2015, 02:35 PM
Watched the first two episodes. So far it doesn't seem to be the type of universe that would blend well with the likes of Luke Cage or Jessica Jones, but whatever. I tried watching Agents of Shield and it was a snoozefest, this one was actually pretty decent.

VICE
04-14-2015, 02:52 PM
I watched the first two episodes last night, convinced a friend who wasn't fond of the idea at first and he ended up loving it. Skeptical bastard.

It's good stuff, but those ninja maneuvers Matt pulled off seemed really unrealistic, plus his hearing is insane. But then I remembered I was watching a Marvel series :noworries

his superpower is super-senses though....

Halaros 536
04-14-2015, 02:53 PM
Sounds interesting.

Pimp of Pimps
04-16-2015, 12:46 AM
I think I'm gonna start this Friday. There are 13 episodes so far, right?

Harard
04-16-2015, 07:55 AM
Yeah.

It shits on Arrow and Flash too.

Rax
04-16-2015, 09:07 AM
I just finished the first season.

Fucking boss as hell.

Alex D. Boss
04-16-2015, 09:18 AM
Yeah I think I will. Also I just remembered I haven't paid Netflix. Do you know if it's on popcorn time too? :cat
Its not on Popcorn time.

Nordlending
04-16-2015, 09:31 AM
I hope this leads to a possible The Punisher on Netflix.

Pimp of Pimps
04-17-2015, 03:39 AM
Downloaded this and will start tomorrow.

Can't wait.

The Gaddess
04-17-2015, 03:41 AM
Yeah.

It shits on Arrow and Flash too.
Post pictures.

Bold
04-17-2015, 12:44 PM
Downloaded this and will start tomorrow.

Can't wait.

Good decision. Shit's getting real where I'm at. :mihawk


In other news, I'm on Episode 9. Matthew's about to meet Frisk so casually. :argh

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Holy shit Matthew's getting wrecked!

VICE
04-17-2015, 12:49 PM
Good decision. Shit's getting real where I'm at. :mihawk


In other news, I'm on Episode 9. Matthew's about to meet Frisk so casually. :argh

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Holy shit Matthew's getting wrecked!

psst.... it's Fisk.

Bold
04-17-2015, 12:56 PM
psst.... it's Fisk.

There must be something wrong with my eyes. I typed Fisk first time round, then I checked on Google and saw Frisk and edited it. Now I check again and it's actually Fisk. :psyduck.

VICE
04-17-2015, 01:11 PM
So, what's next... jessica jones right?

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this is why you all need to get hype for jessica jones.

David tennant will be in it, and he's playing a main villain, kilgrave.

I bet my fellow doctor who fans will like.

Nordlending
04-17-2015, 04:41 PM
They killed the cool Russian guy. Mr. Fish is a evil bastard

VICE
04-17-2015, 05:15 PM
They killed the cool Russian guy. Mr. Fish is a evil bastard

It's fisk.

Nordlending
04-17-2015, 05:18 PM
I translated by accident

VICE
04-17-2015, 05:30 PM
I translated by accident

Hah! didn't even notice.

Haha...

Pimp of Pimps
04-17-2015, 05:30 PM
Finished the first episode, pretty good so far.

White
04-17-2015, 05:56 PM
I finished the series the other week, its lived up to the hype imo

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Im glad mr fist got what was coming to him :grr

Marimo
04-17-2015, 07:09 PM
Ep 4 put me to sleep...tell me it's actually worth continuing

VICE
04-17-2015, 07:47 PM
Ep 4 put me to sleep...tell me it's actually worth continuing
THE FUCK ARE YOU STOPPING JUST BEFORE EPISODE 5 & 6.

YES, 2000% yes.

you love shield yet can't tolerate more than 4 of this awesomeness??????????????????????????????????????? ????????+

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also, it's fisk.

Marimo
04-17-2015, 07:50 PM
Good thing I picked it back up. You weren't kidding about 5 and 6

VICE
04-18-2015, 12:49 AM
Good thing I picked it back up. You weren't kidding about 5 and 6
also, go rewatch that episode 2's ending.

it's beautifully shot. 1 cam, no breaks. it's convincing that all was 1 take.

Marimo
04-18-2015, 12:53 AM
Stopping before 9 tonight. Gotta save something for tomorrow. Shit's about to get real, really quick

VICE
04-18-2015, 01:00 AM
Stopping before 9 tonight. Gotta save something for tomorrow. Shit's about to get real, really quick
Oh hohoho

You're in for a hell of a episode

Raystlyn
04-20-2015, 01:57 PM
Finished this yesterday

I was left wondering what that whole Black Sky thing was about, it looked mystical as fuck

Bold
04-20-2015, 10:57 PM
The end of episode 11 doe!!

Dayum.

Just started episode 12 and Fisk's actor is a beast. He makes Fisk so fascinating.

Big Boss
04-20-2015, 11:57 PM
> more capeshit

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/45/bf/1b/45bf1b757a27554f63881c0b37b25657.jpg

VICE
04-21-2015, 12:36 AM
> more capeshit

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/45/bf/1b/45bf1b757a27554f63881c0b37b25657.jpg

You're being retarded if you won't check this out.
it brings everything to shame by being so good.

Big Boss
04-21-2015, 01:01 AM
> adults running around in costumes and playing vigilantes

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/45/bf/1b/45bf1b757a27554f63881c0b37b25657.jpg

Sorry, but I have zero tolerance for capeshit. None. Their premise is utterly retarded at core.

VICE
04-21-2015, 01:06 AM
> adults running around in costumes and playing vigilantes

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/45/bf/1b/45bf1b757a27554f63881c0b37b25657.jpg

Sorry, but I have zero tolerance for capeshit. None. Their premise is utterly retarded at core.
You're really going to turn a blind eye to this?

No. just no. first off, there's only one basic black clothing he uses as "costume".
then, it's more about the characters, who are well fleshed. even the villain is given his proper screentime.

But yeah, just think of it as capeshit instead of a good tv series which consists of good action, character growth and urban violence.

Bold
04-21-2015, 07:53 PM
Fini. Excellent show. Looking forward to watching the next season.


Finished this yesterday

I was left wondering what that whole Black Sky thing was about, it looked mystical as fuck

Yeah, I was wondering if we'd see more about Gaou and Nobu's operations once Fisk was put away. Asians be crazy.

I'm gonna miss Fisk. I found him quite fascinating.

Great Potato
04-21-2015, 08:16 PM
I finished episode 7.

That car door execution Kingpin pulled off was pretty brutal. The other Russian dude was pretty cool I guess.

I didn't get what was up with the old dude who worked for Kingpin. He tases the man who caused so much trouble for his group, then he just casually drives off when the dude is at his mercy. What's the deal?

VICE
04-21-2015, 08:18 PM
Oh yeah don't read this. (if you haven't seen the whole series)

They made him such a great character, so there's no way he won't get out eventually.
Since Kingpin is a spiderman villain as well, I'd like to see him in the MCU movie. even as a cameo.

VICE
04-22-2015, 05:36 AM
It's been confirmed for season 2.

Bold
04-23-2015, 12:14 AM
Oh yeah don't read this. (if you haven't seen the whole series)

They made him such a great character, so there's no way he won't get out eventually.
Since Kingpin is a spiderman villain as well, I'd like to see him in the MCU movie. even as a cameo.

I think you're right. Kingpin's famous for wearing the white suit jacket right? I think this was the episode where Fisk begins his evolution into Kingpin, much like Matt is now officially Daredevil. What with Fisk recognising now that he is the ill intent and his prison attire was all white, the first time we've seen him in his trademark colour all season.

VICE
04-23-2015, 08:55 AM
I think you're right. Kingpin's famous for wearing the white suit jacket right? I think this was the episode where Fisk begins his evolution into Kingpin, much like Matt is now officially Daredevil. What with Fisk recognising now that he is the ill intent and his prison attire was all white, the first time we've seen him in his trademark colour all season.

Ohh now the "Rabbit in a snowstorm" sounds more poetic.
because he's the White Rabbit.

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Or is he the snowstorm?

Bold
04-23-2015, 12:04 PM
I'm not too sure. You can make a case for either or.

And damn I love this video. (don't open if you haven't watched the season finale.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukn-IvXHiCw

VICE
04-23-2015, 12:23 PM
I'm not too sure. You can make a case for either or.

And damn I love this video. (don't open if you haven't watched the season finale.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukn-IvXHiCw

This is why I loved his performance. truly the show where the villain is done justice. more so now that it's a marvel series.

Alex D. Boss
04-23-2015, 01:21 PM
Its on Popcorntime 0.3.7.2 !

In case you want to watch it on Popcorntime, the whole season is in it!

Marimo
04-24-2015, 01:17 AM
Wilson Fisk was the one of the best done villains in a superhero show/film in recent history. Amazingly done character

Spade
04-24-2015, 03:34 PM
On episode 4. The story's so dark to the point that it just gets boring.

Alex D. Boss
04-24-2015, 08:44 PM
Watching Episode 3 now. Its awesome!

Great Potato
04-27-2015, 08:02 PM
Oh yeah don't read this. (if you haven't seen the whole series)

They made him such a great character, so there's no way he won't get out eventually.
Since Kingpin is a spiderman villain as well, I'd like to see him in the MCU movie. even as a cameo.


I think you're right. Kingpin's famous for wearing the white suit jacket right? I think this was the episode where Fisk begins his evolution into Kingpin, much like Matt is now officially Daredevil. What with Fisk recognising now that he is the ill intent and his prison attire was all white, the first time we've seen him in his trademark colour all season.

I think Kingpin may be too dark for Spiderman, I can't see them pulling off stunts like that car door execution in the movies, not with the more lighthearted tone they've built for themselves. I wouldn't mind a small cameo or a line of dialogue thrown out about him though.

Bold
04-27-2015, 08:14 PM
I think Kingpin may be too dark for Spiderman, I can't see them pulling off stunts like that car door execution in the movies, not with the more lighthearted tone they've built for themselves. I wouldn't mind a small cameo or a line of dialogue thrown out about him though.

Haven't seen the newer releases of Spiderman, but man it'd be a waste not to use this interpretation of Fisk. I don't think Kingpin's been a major antagonist in one of Spidey's films yet. Or at least recently.

Great Potato
04-27-2015, 08:26 PM
Haven't seen the newer releases of Spiderman, but man it'd be a waste not to use this interpretation of Fisk. I don't think Kingpin's been a major antagonist in one of Spidey's films yet. Or at least recently.

Andrew Garfield Spiderman is done with anyways, they're going for a new one that will be introduced in Civil War. Kingpin is more of a Daredevil villain than a Spiderman one now of days, classic Fisk was a beast that could hold his own against Spiderman and clobber Daredevil. He could be interesting if they play their cards right, I wouldn't mind Fisk still being a presence in season 2 of Daredevil either.

Marimo
04-27-2015, 08:57 PM
I think Fisk is going to be more of a villain who provides the resources from the inside for now. Until his better resources kick in and get him out of jail

Pimp of Pimps
04-27-2015, 09:04 PM
Just saw episode 5 (had to take a week break due to travelling). Man, what a cliffhanger.

VICE
04-28-2015, 05:52 AM
Haven't seen the newer releases of Spiderman, but man it'd be a waste not to use this interpretation of Fisk. I don't think Kingpin's been a major antagonist in one of Spidey's films yet. Or at least recently.


Andrew Garfield Spiderman is done with anyways, they're going for a new one that will be introduced in Civil War. Kingpin is more of a Daredevil villain than a Spiderman one now of days, classic Fisk was a beast that could hold his own against Spiderman and clobber Daredevil. He could be interesting if they play their cards right, I wouldn't mind Fisk still being a presence in season 2 of Daredevil either.


I think Fisk is going to be more of a villain who provides the resources from the inside for now. Until his better resources kick in and get him out of jail

Wilson Fisk will primarily be a nemesis to Daredevil. I use his name here because he's not truly Kingpin yet. He wasn't using the alias, and he was missing his trademark suit and his reputation wasn't as strong as it should. So Wilson is evolving like Matt Murdock is.

Now, they've announced that the new spider-man will be a young high schooler, so I don't think the tone is right for kingpin. Peter will be thrown on his own hurdles in civil war.

And lastly, I think, and I would love this to be true, that Wilson's sweetheart Vanessa will be the one to bail him out.

Oh guys, what did you think were the best moments in the show?

for me, would be the raid style fight in episode 2, Death of James Wesley, Nobu's fight, Stick and Stone (the man with scars) and Daredevil vs Wilson Fisk.

Ahh so many good moments i didn't list!

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Finished this yesterday

I was left wondering what that whole Black Sky thing was about, it looked mystical as fuck
I have 2 theories.

1) He's a person that can become inhuman. This would be a nice tie-in with the Agents of Shield.

2) He's a potential vessel for the Beast. Beast is known to be a devil that the Hand worships. (Nobu was part of the Hand Clan, while Stick was the supposed leader of the Chaste, their nemesis.

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This usage of spoilers is exhausting.

Jeanette
04-28-2015, 11:17 PM
This show was .. ok. The heroes are likable. Kingpin looked like a sad turtle. Better than CW fare.

Pimp of Pimps
04-29-2015, 12:38 AM
Watched episode 6 today. This show is getting pretty good.

Marimo
04-29-2015, 12:44 AM
Watched episode 6 today. This show is getting pretty good.

5 and 6 were two of the most intense episodes. Keep going it gets better

Pimp of Pimps
04-29-2015, 12:46 AM
5 and 6 were two of the most intense episodes. Keep going it gets better


Yeah, the storytelling in this show is really good.

One thing this show has over Arrow is the fact that when a show is dragged out over a few months plotholes will appear. It's easier to avoid inconsistencies if the episodes are released all at once and everything is written out beforehand.

VICE
04-29-2015, 02:47 AM
Yeah, the storytelling in this show is really good.

One thing this show has over Arrow is the fact that when a show is dragged out over a few months plotholes will appear. It's easier to avoid inconsistencies if the episodes are released all at once and everything is written out beforehand.
Plus there's no need for ad breaks, giving the flow just freedom.

Alright, I admit I'm biased, having seen everything in one go, but if this is how they'll handle things, it's clearly a better option.

Pimp of Pimps
04-30-2015, 11:11 PM
Just saw episode 11, pretty good. only a few more left, I should be finished by the weekend.


Plus there's no need for ad breaks, giving the flow just freedom.

Alright, I admit I'm biased, having seen everything in one go, but if this is how they'll handle things, it's clearly a better option.

I don't know, I have mixed feeling about the whole release the whole season at once thing. I can see both sides of the coin here.

Though I will say that if they want to do multiple series in the same universe releasing the episodes all at once will pose a problem.

Pimp of Pimps
05-02-2015, 01:53 AM
So I finished the series, was pretty impressed. Can't wait for season 2.

No need for spoiler tags anymore, right?

VICE
05-02-2015, 02:54 AM
So I finished the series, was pretty impressed. Can't wait for season 2.

No need for spoiler tags anymore, right?

Eh, I suppose.
This far into the thread you're just looking to get spoiled.


were you surprised wesley died? i was.

Raystlyn
05-02-2015, 03:37 AM
Yeah that came outta nowhere, I was thinking "man I wish people really did pull the trigger in situations like these" and then she did.

Marimo
05-02-2015, 03:55 AM
Man I was so surprised when she actually pulled the trigger on Wesley....MULTIPLE TIMES! That shit took me by surprise I literally went "OH MY GOD" out loud. That was a great scene. Sad that Wesley died though. Great character

Pimp of Pimps
05-02-2015, 05:25 AM
Why am I being negged for asking if we need spoilers? :cry

It was a question not a statement.

V
05-02-2015, 05:28 AM
Why am I being negged for asking if we need spoilers? :cry

It was a question not a statement.
Valentine;

VICE
05-02-2015, 05:32 AM
Wow #rood

Doma
05-02-2015, 07:09 AM
Yeah, it took me by surprise that Wesley died too. I was definitely thinking he'd pull the cliche I did this for your own good line and we'd find out he was the one pulling the strings behind Vanessa's poisoning. Then I figured his death would be what makes Wilson Fisk hard, but it didn't. So now I'm stuck wondering why he even died in the first place.

Pimp of Pimps
05-03-2015, 05:31 AM
Is Wesley a main guy in the comics? I know he was in that 200 movie. Oris someone else Kingpin's right hand in the comics?

Also, you guys think Mat known Karen killed Wesley?

VICE
05-03-2015, 10:07 AM
Is Wesley a main guy in the comics? I know he was in that 200 movie. Or is someone else Kingpin's right hand in the comics?

Also, you guys think Mat known Karen killed Wesley?
Wesley is known to be his right hand man in the comics.

I think he knows she's hiding something, but didn't mind she had secrets.

Her past is still a big mystery since her comic book version had a rough upcoming.

Pimp of Pimps
05-03-2015, 06:14 PM
Wesley is known to be his right hand man in the comics.

I think he knows she's hiding something, but didn't mind she had secrets.

Her past is still a big mystery since her comic book version had a rough upcoming.


She alluded to her past when she implied that wasn't the first time she shot a gun.

By the way, Wesley was stupid putting a loaded gun on the table.

VICE
05-03-2015, 06:31 PM
She alluded to her past when she implied that wasn't the first time she shot a gun.

By the way, Wesley was stupid putting a loaded gun on the table.
Yes, quite stupid.

Doma
05-03-2015, 06:41 PM
Yeah, it was really stupid. He seemed like such a smart character and that was such a stupid way for him to die. I almost suspect he died for irl reasons rather than it being for the sake of a good story.

VICE
05-03-2015, 06:50 PM
Yeah, it was really stupid. He seemed like such a smart character and that was such a stupid way for him to die. I almost suspect he died for irl reasons rather than it being for the sake of a good story.

I think it was meant to be a dark point in karen's story, and will be developed further in season 2

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but in a way, i liked it. out of the blue moment.

Alex D. Boss
05-03-2015, 11:52 PM
I've finished the series!

I'll give it a fucking 9 lol. Daredevil is awesome. Didn't expect this but after the fact that this show was downloaded the most after GOT, you can expect a lot of good things from it. That was a good ride.

Listen, buddy
05-04-2015, 02:04 AM
After Age of Ultron, I supposed I have seen all of the mcu tv and movies (not counting comics and games).

Neglect the strengths and weakness of the different mediums. Daredevil is the most developed and most interesting marvel superheroes right now for me. Though Iron Man would be a fierce competitor. Charlie Cox, I was so so surprise. I thought he was familiar but didn't recall where I have seen him before. And when I realize it was Stardust, that is one crazy transformation in term of acting. Wilson Fisk/Kingpin is also the most developed and most interesting marvel villain at the moment. More so than Loki (which most probably think is the best villain of the mcu but I like Ultron better). The episode of his past give me the creep but probably because I watch it late at night.

The story is interesting. The writing is superb. The cinematography is good. There is actual tension and risk and not seen in the movies because they try to keep the rating down for kids. Even deaths in movie didn't hold that much weight as opposed in Daredevil. We are worry for Daredevil at all time. We know he ain't going to die. But the beating and injuries has a lot of weight also.

The third act is a bit weaker than the first and second act.

*The downside, Foggy actor is kinda weak. In small dosages, it was fine. But episode 10 when he was featured majorly, his acting just so glaring and really take you out of the show. It is weird too because he had all the best lines.

*Another the one would be Wilson Fisk speaking chinese (mandarin if I recalled correctly) (I heard people complaining about the "russian" accent in Ultron). It was so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so bad. This is like when Mystique speaking Vietnamese in Day of Future Past. Of course, the man will have an accent and isn't fluent like the native. But he doesn't sound like a person who learned the language but speak it badly like Spanglish but rather a child imitating ching chong ding dong. But that probably won't be a problem to many viewers.

The actual time in the show is really short. From one episode to the next can be like from the morning of an episode to the evening of the same episode or the next day. So it felt like you been with the character for less than 2 weeks. That isn't an actual issues. But it does at time feel really rush at how things developed but I think that is just me thinking back and I maybe wrong because I finished the series like the day it was released (2 or 3 in the morning because they want to wait for the west coast) and haven't watch it since. An example of this would be Karen and Murdock. Murdock like disappear most of the time, and Karen hanging out mostly with Foggy. So the relationship of the trio doesn't feel as deep as it portray. Also how much money did they actually made xD. In a show where the passage of time cannot be map out, we can insert in the gap that they may have taking cases before like Foggy allude to his past clients at the bar. But each episodes are so interconnected that we know their business is less than 2 weeks old and they don't have that many clients. But that is just nitpicking

The exploration of religion is a very nice touch. And his personal conflict with the actual act and consequences of vigilante is deeper than most of the other shows. It almost feel like he should be in Cap 3: Civil War because the public knew most of the Avengers public persona (like Steve Roger or Tony Stark) and he still have his secret identity. And civil war has to do with "secret identity."

*The chinese triad and underworld is for some reason that is beyond me not as well known in the west as Yakuza or Mafia. So it is nice to see them feature.

*Tying to the MCU is certainly there but subtle enough that Daredevil is its own thing. A problem that is both Agent of Shield strength and problem (mainly problematic). I am still concern if the rest of the Defenders can carry their own series. And was extremely glad Daredevil has a season 2 and not wait until the Defender tv series. Who know Charlie Cox can negotiate his way into one of these phase 3 movies. And I believe he eyeing a cameo or something in Spiderman. If RDJ can negotiate his way into Cap 3. I don't see why not especially Spidey is still in early development.

Based on critics and audiences.

Daredevil > Arrow s2 > Flash s1* > Arrow s3* > Carter s1 > Shield s2* > Arrow s1 > Shield s1 > Gotham s1*

*ongoing may change. Flash probably could ended up higher than Arrow s2. Gotham don't deserve to be renew at all.

Almost unfair because Daredevil is better than 90% of superheroes movies much less tv shows. I would willing to said I prefer Daredevil only second to the Dark Knight just solely because of character development.

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I think it was meant to be a dark point in karen's story, and will be developed further in season 2

Consider there was no season 2 until recently. They planned for the Defender not Daredevil 2. So I don't know how much of that was plan out.

Doma
05-04-2015, 06:42 AM
I think it was meant to be a dark point in karen's story, and will be developed further in season 2

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but in a way, i liked it. out of the blue moment.

I suspected that as well. But it seems like she could have killed literally anyone for the same emotional impact.

I agree it did have quite a bit of shock value because you weren't expecting it at all especially how early into the series it was. But I don't know, I just really liked the character and was hoping he was meant for greater things.

VICE
05-04-2015, 06:50 AM
That's really common in tv shows. that characters that are interesting won't die. so they had the balls to kill him and nobu too. well, no one actually confirmed nobu's death.

Doma
05-04-2015, 07:16 AM
Well yeah, but it's common for a reason. If you kill off an interesting character your show has just lost part of its interest. So if you have to kill an interesting character, you typically want a good reason. Most of the important characters in the show died for important reasons. Even Nobu's death will probably lead to something important. Because you don't freaking mention the Yakuza as a threat several times over and then don't introduce them into the story.

VICE
05-04-2015, 10:29 AM
Well yeah, but it's common for a reason. If you kill off an interesting character your show has just lost part of its interest. So if you have to kill an interesting character, you typically want a good reason. Most of the important characters in the show died for important reasons. Even Nobu's death will probably lead to something important. Because you don't freaking mention the Yakuza as a threat several times over and then don't introduce them into the story.

Hah, it's even bigger than the yakuza. Oh boy they'll be a threat.

Alex D. Boss
05-04-2015, 11:00 AM
Should I watch Arrow?

Pimp of Pimps
05-04-2015, 11:00 AM
Should I watch Arrow?

Yes, definitely.

Alex D. Boss
05-04-2015, 11:03 AM
Yes, definitely.
Why?

VICE
05-04-2015, 11:18 AM
It's well made as a comic book series and makes the characters good.

Alex D. Boss
05-04-2015, 12:01 PM
It has too many episodes. But I'll try end of the week.

Listen, buddy
05-04-2015, 07:22 PM
It has too many episodes. But I'll try end of the week.

Based on critics and audiences.

Daredevil > Arrow s2 > Flash s1* > Arrow s3* > Carter s1 > Shield s2* > Arrow s1 > Shield s1 > Gotham s1*

*ongoing may change. Flash probably could ended up higher than Arrow s2. Gotham don't deserve to be renew at all.

As you can see, Arrow quality from season 1 to season 2 jump up quite a bit. The first time I watch Arrow I was bore out of my mind. I gave up on it like the first few episodes. And the whole thing about killing body guards/security services of the "bad guys" in the beginning seem to NOT well thought through. But the show does deal with it later. And toward the middle of season 1, it does somewhat hinted at the end game and the third act of season 1 is pretty good.

So you do need to stick with it for a bit to be rewarded. Also, Arrow has a soap opera element. It suit the show well, but I don't know if you like that.

VICE
05-05-2015, 06:18 AM
As you can see, Arrow quality from season 1 to season 2 jump up quite a bit. The first time I watch Arrow I was bore out of my mind. I gave up on it like the first few episodes. And the whole thing about killing body guards/security services of the "bad guys" in the beginning seem to NOT well thought through. But the show does deal with it later. And toward the middle of season 1, it does somewhat hinted at the end game and the third act of season 1 is pretty good.

So you do need to stick with it for a bit to be rewarded. Also, Arrow has a soap opera element. It suit the show well, but I don't know if you like that.

Where are you pulling that Gotham is in the bottom? it has gotten good reviews and deserves a second season

Great Potato
05-05-2015, 02:51 PM
We are worry for Daredevil at all time.

That summarizes the series pretty well.

Listen, buddy
05-07-2015, 07:38 AM
Where are you pulling that Gotham is in the bottom? it has gotten good reviews and deserves a second season

You want to see the actual numbers?

http://www.ign.com/tv/gotham/1

http://www.avclub.com/tv/gotham/

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/gotham/s01/#in-theaters

Look under "episode section"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3749900/episodes

Each episodes have their own rating.

I gave up on Gotham a while back (watching probably 70 to 80% of the season) and check into the finale. There are couple of characters I really annoy by: Will Smith's wife, cat girl, and the psycho bisexual ex gf of Gordon. I was hoping it would be somewhat like a better version of Batman year one without the Batman. And if they want to include young Bruce Wayne, I believe they are heading toward court of Owls storyline. Kinda want to see Professor Pyg too.

Pimp of Pimps
05-13-2015, 10:00 PM
This has already been confirmed for season 2, right?

Jeanette
05-13-2015, 10:44 PM
This has already been confirmed for season 2, right?

Yes.

Alex D. Boss
05-13-2015, 11:15 PM
How many Episodes will Season 2 have?

VICE
05-14-2015, 12:08 AM
Who knows. perhaps the same 13.

Kane
05-17-2015, 05:21 PM
This show is pretty good so far, About to start episode 5.

Kane
05-18-2015, 10:38 PM
This show is really good, I rate it the same as Flash in the same amount of episodes.

Kane
05-20-2015, 07:49 PM
Fisk is kinda lame, though I do like Nobu, he was pretty badass.

Also, its like I'm talking to myself in this thread :lmao

VICE
05-20-2015, 07:54 PM
well, everyone else watched it already haha.

Kane
05-22-2015, 05:01 PM
Just finished Season 1, holy shit that was a good ride, hype for Gao and the Japanese to strike back at full force :excited

Bold
05-22-2015, 05:21 PM
Just finished Season 1, holy shit that was a good ride, hype for Gao and the Japanese to strike back at full force :excited

You finish this in a week but you're still on chapter five of Kingdom? :maybe

And yeah, the show's awesome. Did your feelings on Fisk change? I thought he was pretty awesome.

Kane
05-22-2015, 06:33 PM
You finish this in a week but you're still on chapter five of Kingdom? :maybe

And yeah, the show's awesome. Did your feelings on Fisk change? I thought he was pretty awesome.
Chapter 10 actually :maybe

Fisk was a good character I suppose, he just got on my nerves though kinda of annoying and his temper tantrums were kinda pathetic, I liked Wesley better. Who do you think will be the antagonists of the second season?

Alex D. Boss
05-22-2015, 06:52 PM
Fisk is a beast.

Nordlending
06-09-2015, 08:47 PM
http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2015/06/daredevil-139350.jpeg

The Punisher is confirmed for season 2 and will be played by Jon Bernthal.

Alex D. Boss
06-09-2015, 09:24 PM
Awesome. How many eps will it be?

Jeanette
06-09-2015, 09:30 PM
Jon Bernthal is awesome.

Alex D. Boss
06-09-2015, 09:34 PM
HOLY SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

JON BERNTHALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Marimo
06-10-2015, 02:33 AM
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Makenzye
06-10-2015, 02:40 AM
http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2015/06/daredevil-139350.jpeg

The Punisher is confirmed for season 2 and will be played by Jon Bernthal.

This absolutely made my day.

Murphy
06-11-2015, 01:04 AM
My my, The Punisher uh? Mammal would love this.

\_(ツ)_/

Alex D. Boss
06-11-2015, 01:06 AM
Awesome

Nordlending
07-07-2015, 07:35 PM
After reading througe the thread.

Why are nobody talking about how they killed Leland. He was one of my favorite characters.

Nordlending
07-07-2015, 10:24 PM
Elodie Yung is cast as Elektra in season 2.
http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2015/07/elektra-142967.jpg

This is going to be a fun season

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Punisher, Daredevil, and Elektra in one show = Epic
Makenzye;

Makenzye
07-07-2015, 10:31 PM
I'd almost rather them wait with Elektra. Sorta feels like they'll blow their load too soon. And I get the feeling Bullseye will be in season 3 now.

Great Potato
07-07-2015, 10:34 PM
I bet Galactus will be the villain for next season.

Makenzye
07-07-2015, 10:37 PM
I haven't heard anything about the plot yet, but I'm going to assume the Hand are in town and the Punisher and Daredevil have two very different ways of handling them.

Pimp of Pimps
07-11-2015, 09:07 AM
What's Elektra's handicap again?

Great Potato
07-11-2015, 02:01 PM
What's Elektra's handicap again?

I didn't know she was handicapped.

Makenzye
07-11-2015, 02:03 PM
She has a weakness to her own sai being put through her back by maniacs.


Are you maybe thinking Echo?

VICE
01-01-2016, 07:29 AM
http://www.cinemablend.com/images/gallery/s108087/daredevil_14514297837532.jpg

She looks good

Murphy
01-01-2016, 07:45 AM
Yeah she doesn't look bad.

It's gonna be hard for them to live up to the first season but I'm hoping for the best.

VICE
01-01-2016, 08:23 AM
Yeah she doesn't look bad.

It's gonna be hard for them to live up to the first season but I'm hoping for the best.
the costume's gonna be the issue.

Pimp of Pimps
01-11-2016, 01:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXyW4Cuwphg

Nordlending
01-11-2016, 01:46 AM
Damn, I am hyped for this. To bad March is a good while away.

Rax
01-11-2016, 01:50 AM
Oh man :hhh

Pimp of Pimps
01-11-2016, 01:52 AM
@VICE (http://www.millenniumforums.com/member.php?u=4451); @Makenzye (http://www.millenniumforums.com/member.php?u=757);

Alex D. Boss
01-11-2016, 03:37 AM
I saw this. Hype is fohreal

VICE
01-11-2016, 01:48 PM
Uhhhh.. :hhh

Daredevil is GOAT

Makenzye
01-11-2016, 04:02 PM
Oh man. :excited

Great Potato
01-11-2016, 09:57 PM
The teaser had some chilling atmosphere and great imagery, particularly with that shot of the DD symbol within the Punisher skull, it sets a promising tone for the season.

Bold
01-12-2016, 05:41 PM
Can't wait to binge this again. :whew

Aliasniamor
01-12-2016, 05:47 PM
I'm hyped :hhh (off subject but, is there a thread for Jessica Jones ? :hmm)

Murphy
01-12-2016, 06:26 PM
(off subject but, is there a thread for Jessica Jones ? :hmm)
Yep, there is: http://www.millenniumforums.com/showthread.php?31462-Marvel-s-Jessica-Jones

For future reference you should use the television index (http://www.millenniumforums.com/showthread.php?13635-Entertainment-Directory-Television-Index)to find tv shows (click the bolded).

Great Potato
02-15-2016, 05:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5_A0Wx0jU4

Great Potato
02-15-2016, 06:46 PM
Pimp of Pimps; Makenzye; VICE; Swole Ass Chest;

Nordlending
02-15-2016, 07:00 PM
This is going to be fun.

Y
02-15-2016, 07:01 PM
Oh my god yes.

Alex D. Boss
02-15-2016, 07:06 PM
Damn this shit is hype.

Live Fast Eat Ass
02-15-2016, 07:13 PM
Oh my god yes, this is going to be fun


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5_A0Wx0jU4
Damn this shit is hype

Tifa
02-15-2016, 07:58 PM
FUUUCCCCCKKKK. March and April i'm just gonna be a pile of garbage in front of my TV. I'm so excited.

Live Fast Eat Ass
02-15-2016, 08:42 PM
Giving the one bad day back to miller

Murphy
02-15-2016, 10:24 PM
The Punisher. :myst :cormag


That was a dope ass trailer, next month can't come soon enough.

Great Potato
02-25-2016, 05:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cn3DVV0LHY

Tifa
02-25-2016, 07:32 PM
AHHH. It looks so great! Foggy needs to chill tho, just help your bestie who is a hero! :catno

Alex D. Boss
02-25-2016, 07:58 PM
When is the first ep coming out

Tifa
02-25-2016, 08:04 PM
When is the first ep coming out
The whole season starts on March 18th (it all comes out at once)

Alex D. Boss
02-25-2016, 09:33 PM
The whole season starts on March 18th (it all comes out at once)
How many eps

Tifa
02-25-2016, 09:36 PM
How many eps
I think last season was 12?

Alex D. Boss
02-25-2016, 09:40 PM
I think last season was 12?
How many this season.

Tifa
02-25-2016, 09:42 PM
How many this season.
I'm assuming the same, so 24 in total when it comes out for the whole series.

Alex D. Boss
02-25-2016, 09:57 PM
I'm assuming the same, so 24 in total when it comes out for the whole series.
You deserve rounds tonight

https://49.media.tumblr.com/d4696902232240c157d8cfd33126f465/tumblr_ndtauzVT121qdt5aqo1_400.gif

Murphy
02-26-2016, 06:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cn3DVV0LHY
I wasn't too convinced on the actress they chose to play Elektra at first but she looks fantastic in the role, one of the highlights of this trailer.

Yakuza, The Hand, Punisher, Elektra.... this season will be fire.

Pimp of Pimps
03-20-2016, 03:24 PM
Who is watching this? I just finished episode three. Let's keep talk in spoiler tags for now and make it clear what episode you're talking about.

Man, that fight scene against the Dogs of Hell was insane.

Makenzye
03-20-2016, 11:48 PM
Who is watching this? I just finished episode three. Let's keep talk in spoiler tags for now and make it clear what episode you're talking about.

Man, that fight scene against the Dogs of Hell was insane.



Indeed. Series is insane. How far have you gotten? I have some feelings about a certain character.

Great Potato
03-21-2016, 12:21 AM
I saw the first two episodes the other day. It's off to a good start.

Kane
03-21-2016, 12:40 AM
I wasn't too convinced on the actress they chose to play Elektra at first but she looks fantastic in the role, one of the highlights of this trailer.

Yakuza, The Hand, Punisher, Elektra.... this season will be fire.
http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/void0-47.gif

Great Potato
03-21-2016, 03:53 AM
Just finished episode 3.

That fight sequence was fantastic.

VICE
03-21-2016, 01:27 PM
I've seen 6 episodes and I have to say, this season is on fire! Delivered on the hype season 1 brought!

I like these versions of punisher and elektra.

Makenzye
03-21-2016, 02:05 PM
VICE;

You should have spoiler tagged it. :giogio

VICE
03-21-2016, 04:34 PM
Ahh fine. But it's more as a helpful "go ahead mate, i recommend" sort of spoiler.

Great Potato
03-22-2016, 12:20 AM
Just watched episode 4.

Punisher telling that whole story about the poem was some heavy stuff, very powerful scene. Seeing him get tortured with that drill was intense as well, typically the hero gets there before anything really gruesome happens. I'd say so far the quality of these episodes have been a step higher than season 1.

Makenzye
03-22-2016, 02:13 PM
Just watched episode 4.

Punisher telling that whole story about the poem was some heavy stuff, very powerful scene. Seeing him get tortured with that drill was intense as well, typically the hero gets there before anything really gruesome happens. I'd say so far the quality of these episodes have been a step higher than season 1.

The drill and dog scene was pretty heavy. Also speaks to the Punisher's character as someone willing to/banking on being abducted and tortured, knowing that they might find some way to get to him and so he rigged the money to explode anyway. And he got to save his dog.

Also, that pawn shop owner. I cringed the moment he told Castle about that last video selection. He almost got to live.

I definitely agree this season is a step up from the already great season 1.

Jeanette
03-22-2016, 02:14 PM
Not even Shane can get me to enjoy this overrated series.

V
03-23-2016, 06:02 AM
S1 was not very good

Rax
03-23-2016, 06:03 AM
Starting up S2

Makenzye
03-25-2016, 02:45 PM
Finished it last night.

Great stuff.

Anybody else finish it so I can spoiler message them?

Pimp of Pimps
03-25-2016, 02:58 PM
Finished it last night.

Great stuff.

Anybody else finish it so I can spoiler message them?

I finished it.

Makenzye
03-25-2016, 03:00 PM
I finished it.

What did you think of Elektra? I got some severe Rumiko Fujikawa vibes off her initially. I'm not exactly sure if by the end I thought she was perfectly handled or not.

Jeanette
03-25-2016, 03:40 PM
S1 was not very good

The Kingpin was a fucking TRAVESTY. If only these MCU faggot fans knew what the REAL Kingpin is like.

Makenzye
03-25-2016, 03:41 PM
The Kingpin was a fucking TRAVESTY. If only these MCU faggot fans knew what the REAL Kingpin is like.

Oddly enough, that was my complaint about the first season.

Jeanette
03-25-2016, 03:46 PM
Oddly enough, that was my complaint about the first season.

I only started reading Daredevil comics like a year ago. I thought Kingpin was some lame ass fat guy. Color me surprised to see he was absolutely a curbstomping, stoic, unflinching badass beast.

Not some sissy girly voiced mommas boy bitch like the fag in this show. Wawwww daredevil is messing with my nightly session of watching Twilight and getting my nails done. Now i'll cry and swing my stubby arms around like a gassy walrus.

Makenzye
03-25-2016, 03:58 PM
I only started reading Daredevil comics like a year ago. I thought Kingpin was some lame ass fat guy. Color me surprised to see he was absolutely a curbstomping, stoic, unflinching badass beast.

Not some sissy girly voiced mommas boy bitch like the fag in this show. Wawwww daredevil is messing with my nightly session of watching Twilight and getting my nails done. Now i'll cry and swing my stubby arms around like a gassy walrus.

I'm glad someone else is reading Daredevil out there.


Keep a look out for when Brubaker and...ugh... Bendis write him. They do very well. Mark Waid can be good and sometimes a little rough.


Everybody always refers back to Frank Miller, and I can mostly agree. This whole second season owes its existence to Frank Miller.

Y
03-25-2016, 11:09 PM
So...

The fuck was that hole for.

Pimp of Pimps
03-26-2016, 06:30 PM
I think we're good discussing normally now. It's been awhile since the season was released.


What did you think of Elektra? I got some severe Rumiko Fujikawa vibes off her initially. I'm not exactly sure if by the end I thought she was perfectly handled or not.

I don't know much about the comics, so I can't say with full confidence how good the characters were. That being said, Elektra was so-so for me.

Overall the season was very good but felt short.

Y
03-26-2016, 06:34 PM
What the hell, was that 40 stock deep hole for.

Pimp of Pimps
03-26-2016, 06:40 PM
What the hell, was that 40 stock deep hole for.


No clue. I tried googling it to see if it has anything to do with the comics but nothing.

Y
03-26-2016, 06:41 PM
It's like they threw it in there for the mid season finale and then just never mention it again.

Pimp of Pimps
03-26-2016, 06:43 PM
It'll probably play a role next season, just like how the random episode with Stick in season one played a role this season.

@Makenzye (http://www.millenniumforums.com/member.php?u=757); Do you feel they made Stick too weak? Again, I haven't really read any DareDevil comics but from what I know of him Stick should be putting up better fights.

Makenzye
03-26-2016, 06:45 PM
It'll probably play a role next season, just like how the random episode with Stick in season one played a role this season.

@Makenzye (http://www.millenniumforums.com/member.php?u=757); Do you feel they made Stick too weak? Again, I haven't really read any DareDevil comics but from what I know of him Stick should be putting up better fights.

Stick felt a little underwhelming, but I think it fit in well with the tone of the overall series where nobody was really all that powerful.

Except Frank, who apparently can take all of the damage in the world with no sleep and keep going.

Pimp of Pimps
03-26-2016, 06:46 PM
Stick felt a little underwhelming, but I think it fit in well with the tone of the overall series where nobody was really all that powerful. .


Is Stick stronger or weaker than Matt in the comics?

Great Potato
03-26-2016, 06:50 PM
Watched episode 9


It was cool seeing Fisk again, didn't expect him to show up this season. Knew that dealer was going to have a nasty fate once he started talking down to the true Kingpin. The carnage in the cell block and the imagery of the blood soaked Castle in the aftermath was intense, but I'm still waiting to see how this all ties together. So far the Punisher and Hand plots haven't really overlapped.

Speaking of the Hand, Nobu is back as well. He gave a cool fight season 1, but doesn't hold my interest too much as a character.

Makenzye
03-26-2016, 06:58 PM
Is Stick stronger or weaker than Matt in the comics?

When he was alive Matt was still the superior in outright combat. Stick just tends to be a trickier combatant. Though Stick was a master of pretty much all known Asian based martial arts as well as ki control and the like. But Stick was also getting on in years and all of his dodging feats have been replicated or surpassed since Stick has passed.

The only thing Stick can do Matt couldn't? Literally drain the lifeforce out of someone.


Watched episode 9


It was cool seeing Fisk again, didn't expect him to show up this season. Knew that dealer was going to have a nasty fate once he started talking down to the true Kingpin. The carnage in the cell block and the imagery of the blood soaked Castle in the aftermath was intense, but I'm still waiting to see how this all ties together. So far the Punisher and Hand plots haven't really overlapped.

Speaking of the Hand, Nobu is back as well. He gave a cool fight season 1, but doesn't hold my interest too much as a character.


I understand just why Nobu was there, but I didn't think he was much of a character either.

Pimp of Pimps
03-26-2016, 07:07 PM
I see, thanks.

I'm disappointed we didn't get to see Stone.

Great Potato
03-27-2016, 01:30 PM
I understand just why Nobu was there, but I didn't think he was much of a character either.

Yeah, while I'm still on the subject of familiar faces I must say I was truly surprised they threw in that DC crossover. Bringing in General Eiling to tell his war story of him and Castle.

Anyways, I saw episode 10, there's still a lot of plot strings to tie together. Punisher is being framed, I'm assuming by the Blacksmith in an effort to get rid of the man after his head. Kingpin is being set up as a big villain again, potentially for a Season 3, and the way it ended off with him feeling Murdock's punch and wanting to take another look at his files gives me a nasty feeling he may end up cracking his true identity. Elektra is being hunted by Stick for abandoning the cause, or at least that's what the guy who she killed told her.

Then of course there's that chilling cliffhanger with the horror movie children and the Hand scaling the hospital. The next three episodes should be promising with all of these different plot threads to tie together.

Makenzye
03-27-2016, 02:07 PM
Yeah, while I'm still on the subject of familiar faces I must say I was truly surprised they threw in that DC crossover. Bringing in General Eiling to tell his war story of him and Castle.

Anyways, I saw episode 10, there's still a lot of plot strings to tie together. Punisher is being framed, I'm assuming by the Blacksmith in an effort to get rid of the man after his head. Kingpin is being set up as a big villain again, potentially for a Season 3, and the way it ended off with him feeling Murdock's punch and wanting to take another look at his files gives me a nasty feeling he may end up cracking his true identity. Elektra is being hunted by Stick for abandoning the cause, or at least that's what the guy who she killed told her.

Then of course there's that chilling cliffhanger with the horror movie children and the Hand scaling the hospital. The next three episodes should be promising with all of these different plot threads to tie together.

The give away of Punisher being framed was the DA getting put down in a hailstorm of bullets after the Punisher went out of his way to use as few bullets as possible.

Im also wondering if Fisk suspects Matt of being the Daredevil.

Fecal Excrmnt
03-29-2016, 11:35 AM
great season. can't believe we have to wait another 10 months to see Karen's reaction

Pimp of Pimps
03-29-2016, 11:39 AM
great season. can't believe we have to wait another 10 months to see Karen's reaction

I know right.

Great Potato
03-29-2016, 08:10 PM
Finished Episode 12


As soon as Karen entered General Eiling's house it clicked pretty quickly that he was the Blacksmith. He has connections to Frank Castle, the military equipment and experience to pull off those hits, and I didn't see any reason to bring him back into the story other than a reveal like that.

I liked that scene where Frank Castle takes him into the shed where there's all those tools to torture him with, but then just ends it with a single shot. I think it speaks for his character. He doesn't get off on torture and revenge, he does it because he truly believes it's justice. Then he sees the weapon stash and his finger twitches as he realizes that his work doesn't just end with his family's killers.

Makenzye
03-29-2016, 08:17 PM
Finished Episode 12


As soon as Karen entered General Eiling's house it clicked pretty quickly that he was the Blacksmith. He has connections to Frank Castle, the military equipment and experience to pull off those hits, and I didn't see any reason to bring him back into the story other than a reveal like that.

I liked that scene where Frank Castle takes him into the shed where there's all those tools to torture him with, but then just ends it with a single shot. I think it speaks for his character. He doesn't get off on torture and revenge, he does it because he truly believes it's justice. Then he sees the weapon stash and his finger twitches as he realizes that his work doesn't just end with his family's killers.

Do you think maybe the Blacksmith is someone else, and the general only works for him maybe?

Fecal Excrmnt
03-29-2016, 08:37 PM
yeah where tf is the proof that he's the Blacksmith? i didnt make that connection at all

Great Potato
03-30-2016, 12:03 PM
Finished the series.


Do you think maybe the Blacksmith is someone else, and the general only works for him maybe?

It's possible, I kind of hope not though. I felt like Punisher finally closed that chapter of his life and moved on from there, symbolized by him burning the house. I'd like to see where he goes from there and not just say "General Eiling wasn't the Blacksmith... you're family's killer is still out there!". He was pretty rushed though, pretty much killed off as soon as he was discovered.

Makenzye
03-30-2016, 01:42 PM
Finished the series.



It's possible, I kind of hope not though. I felt like Punisher finally closed that chapter of his life and moved on from there, symbolized by him burning the house. I'd like to see where he goes from there and not just say "General Eiling wasn't the Blacksmith... you're family's killer is still out there!". He was pretty rushed though, pretty much killed off as soon as he was discovered.

There was something about an incident they were all involved in back East, and with Microchip entering the scene I could see the Punisher trying to bring down the Blacksmith's network.

If Eiling was the Blacksmith, it would be pretty anticlimactic and so I somewhat hope this isn't the end and Daredevil was sort of used to launch the Punisher's story for his own series.

But I also agree I'd like to see the Punisher moving on and going after whoever was supporting the Blacksmith, trying to just take down criminals. I'm hyped to see Microchip entering the scene to help Frank find scumbags and put them in bodybags.

Pimp of Pimps
03-30-2016, 01:51 PM
Microchip is Punisher's sidekick right?

Makenzye
03-30-2016, 01:55 PM
Microchip is Punisher's sidekick right?

Yeah, he helps with the war on crime by supplying equipment and weapons. Until he turns around and betrays the Punisher by trying to replace Frank with a new Punisher.

Great Potato
03-30-2016, 01:59 PM
This is really a season I felt could have benefitted from more episodes. They really wanted to build up Punisher and Elektra, but they dedicated so much screentime to those two that they had to neglect their villains. I feel the whole reason they used Nobu was just because he was already a familiar face, so they wouldn't have to spend any time building up a new character, then the general has to be killed off right when he's discovered since it's episode 12 and they have to tie up loose ends. I didn't even really understand the Hand's motivation by the end of it, no good explanation for what the Black Sky actually is, just that it's a massive threat and they're planning on doing something diabolical with it by utilizing a giant hole in the ground or something.

Makenzye
03-30-2016, 02:31 PM
What did you think of Elektra? Great Potato;


I got some Rumiko Fujikawa vibes off her early on.

Great Potato
03-30-2016, 10:10 PM
What did you think of Elektra? Great Potato;


I got some Rumiko Fujikawa vibes off her early on.

I didn't get too invested in her. Her character was alright, but I didn't care for her story. I've never been a fan of the whole "save them from darkness" plot, I quickly lose interest when a character gets taken in that direction. The reveal that she was Black Sky added no appeal for me either, if I have no idea what the Black Sky is or why it's important, then it's hard to care that Elektra happens to be one. I can't say I dislike her, but I also didn't find myself caring either of the times she got stabbed.

Makenzye
03-30-2016, 10:16 PM
I didn't get too invested in her. Her character was alright, but I didn't care for her story. I've never been a fan of the whole "save them from darkness" plot, I quickly lose interest when a character gets taken in that direction. The reveal that she was Black Sky added no appeal for me either, if I have no idea what the Black Sky is or why it's important, then it's hard to care that Elektra happens to be one. I can't say I dislike her, but I also didn't find myself caring either of the times she got stabbed.

I wasn't surprised by the end because it was televised a million miles out.

I know the Black Sky is supposed to be this mystical destructive thing going on, and it's special since that kid in the last season had it. But like you said before how this season could've really worked with a few more episodes? This is where DD needed them, to explain the what and why of Black Sky so we understand it more. Because if the writers say they're going to reveal it next season, I would much rather them not explain it after a major character with it has died. If it's supposed to have some tremendous sway or possession over the possessed, I would have found it much more interesting with Elektra's turn away from it than if I found out after.

Bold
03-30-2016, 10:26 PM
Tempted to watch season 2, but I know I'll end up binging it. :catcry

How good's season 2?

V
04-05-2016, 06:29 PM
Significantly better than S1

SO why is murdock fine with elektra killing people? I thought he was against killing people but halfway through this series he doesn't seem to care

Sleepah
04-05-2016, 06:43 PM
the only reason I watch this is rasario dawson

Fecal Excrmnt
05-03-2016, 03:29 PM
they're making a Punisher series !!

i watched this last night and didnt even recognize Jon's voice at all at first


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HuEocXc1tI

Fisk
05-08-2016, 08:35 PM
Season 2 was disappointing, but I guess season 1 set the bar too high.

Elektra a massive shit.

Gaidou
05-09-2016, 07:06 PM
Season 2 turned Foggy into an ACTUAL character, even Karen's character (despite peaks and valleys of her character arc) was superb as well. It was MURDOCK who I felt was the drag of Season 2. And lel at whoever called Elektra shit :lmao

Also, "The Black Sky" was a very tough piece of meat the directors were collectively chewing this season, it's waaaay too nebulous and almost irritating that Season 3 looks to be revolved around it. Hopefully Fisk returns and solidifies his Kingpin mantle.

Alex D. Boss
08-10-2016, 09:26 PM
How is season 2?

Is it better than S1?

Fecal Excrmnt
01-15-2017, 05:33 AM
Nobu vs Fisk, full gear

who wins

Zoro
01-15-2017, 05:36 AM
Nobu vs Fisk, full gear

who wins
umm

are you still bored?

Salem
07-23-2017, 01:02 PM
On episode 3 atm.

This is having pretty slow start imo.

RoyalIce
07-23-2017, 02:31 PM
On episode 3 atm.

This is having pretty slow start imo.
Yeah I thought the same. It gets pretty intense though.

Salem
07-25-2017, 11:35 AM
Finished season 1 a moment ago.

Everyone always says how good Netflix's Daredevil is, hyping it as one of the best shows on Netflix, but aside from season finale, this was pretty boring overall, alright at best in general.

Luke Cage was better.

Punisher better appear in most episodes of season 2 for me to stay interested.

Also, what the hell was Black Sky? It was never explained.

VICE
07-25-2017, 12:23 PM
>Luke Gage was better

can words such as these exist?

Salem
07-25-2017, 12:26 PM
You first heard it from me.

VICE
07-25-2017, 12:38 PM
You first heard it from me.
Can we at least agree on 1 key point

Daredevil's Kingpin's arc and buildup to the final confrontation was better than Diamondback

Salem
07-25-2017, 01:00 PM
Sure.

Salem
07-26-2017, 05:09 AM
Mother
Fucking
Punisher
:whew

Salem
07-27-2017, 05:47 AM
Second season is boring af after Punisher got arrested.